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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: agincourt17 on August 08, 2013, 09:47:50 AM
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A blown clear glass comport (actually one of a pair) with a plain circular dish or shallow bowl, and a hollow bulbous stem or pedestal supported on three applied reeded scroll feet. Polished pontil mark to the underside of the stem engraved or etched with a registry date lozenge for 19 October 1867 Parcel 4. Just over 5 inches tall, with bowl rim diameter 6 inches.
The date lozenge corresponds to a parcel of four registered designs (RDs 212674 to 212 677), all shown on page 270 of Mervyn Gullivers Victorian Decorative Glass British Designs 1850-1914 (Schiffer Publishing Ltd, USA, 2002).
RD 212674: Designs for a handle, pouring spout and feet;
RD 212675: Design for a shell-shaped prunt matching the designs in RD 212674;
RD 212676: Variation for the connection of a handle to the top of a jug shown in RD 212674;
RD 212677: Design for an applied circular prunt matching the designs in 212674.
The only registered design feature on this Thomas Webb comport would seem to be the feet (RD 212674), though the scroll bends outwards with the curve opposite to the curve of the reeded attachment (giving a reverse S effect) whereas the foot in the registration representation has the scroll bending inwards to give more of a reverse C effect.
Fred
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What an unusual shape,very nice piece,great find, ;D ;D
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Another blown clear glass piece by Thomas Webb & Sons Limited which bears the same registry date lozenge (19 October 1867 Parcel 4).
This time, a covered bowl on a plain circular foot with a short stem. Approximately 6 inches high with the lid / cover on , and 6 inches wide across the handles. The registry lozenge is engraved / etched on the polished pontil mark on the underside of the foot.
In this case, the scrolled & reeded feet from RD 212674 have been used upside down (and with domed embellishments) as handles on the side of the bowl, and joined together to form a looped handle for the lid or cover.
Two ring prunts from RD 212677 (somewhat distorted into shallow ovals) have been applied as decoration to the bowl sides.
(Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by bxhscl).
Fred
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Why can't I find pieces like these? ;D ;D
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In retirement, Keith, I am able to lead a relatively unencumbered sad and nerdy existence. I don't even have a TV, so when others in a like situation are settling down to daytime TV or becoming emeshed in the day-to-day dealings of the various eveing TV soaps, I choose instead to trawl the internet for pictures of little gems of the Victorian glassmaker's art (especially if they are from registered designs). It is then only a matter of seeking the appropriate copyright permissions before showing them on the GMB for the delectation of others. I have neither the desire nor the money to own them, and certainly no space to display them.
I think these are really super pieces, especially with such clear authenticating registry lozenges and, of course, the design representations to compare them with. They really deserve to be in the Broadfield House collection.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to find something similar in coloured glass?!
I shall continue the search in the hope of finding something else along these lines to report on the GMB.
Fred.
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quote....................."when others in a like situation are settling down to daytime TV or becoming emeshed in the day-to-day dealings of the various eveing TV soaps"............... surely, people here are far too intelligent to waste their time watching soaps - aren't they? ;)
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I'm not sure that intelligence necessarily enters into it, Paul, more a matter of inclination.
Fred.
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Not sad or nerdy,I'm also in 'retirement' sort of,do have a large collection of sci-fi films but not soaps,wish I had more money and space for glass and other things,would settle for plain glass in these, ;D ;D
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They're exquisitely made aren't they? and agree, they should be in Broadfield House.
m
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Or in my house, ::) ::) ;D ;D
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;D maybe
I don't do clear so I'm not that fussed, but can see they are really elegant pieces.
m
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Here is the jug, i can not see it on here.
The stopper is a good fit but the number does not match the jug, jug has 15 stopper 19.
9 inches in total height with stopper.
Regards Chris.
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nice piece. The stopper does not look right though.
m
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Thank you for showing this jug, Chris, though I agree that the stopper seems to be a mismatch.
Fred.
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I don't know what the original pattern looks like but a plain ball stopper set lower onto the neck rim would look better I think?
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Im just lucky to have two of them, the other is here.https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,57789.msg327763.html#msg327763