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Title: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on August 18, 2013, 10:51:53 AM

An unusual ashtray that seems very similar too cloud glass to me it's been mould blown i think as i can see seams but with a polished smooth base with a good amount of wear, It measures 3.5" long and 23/4" high. Seems a fairly stylised design that ive not seen before. Any thoughts on age or origins please?

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: Anne on August 18, 2013, 11:45:14 AM

Is it really glass, I'd have guessed ceramic from the images.  :o  It's not what I think of as cloud - the only thing I've seen in this colour are some ball-shaped candle holders for Wuidart, so that might be an avenue to explore?

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on August 18, 2013, 11:51:15 AM

defo glass anne, Has the swirls like cloud on close inspection although im saying cloud im not really sure. As its a fairly small heavy piece the swirls are not that easy to photograph. im stumped really will look at wuidart

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: Ivo on August 18, 2013, 02:28:14 PM

I would have said ceramic too. But if it is glass, then maybe Sasaki?

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: Paul S. on August 18, 2013, 05:58:55 PM

a more than likely reason for the appearance of a cloud effect is simply that the colourant and glass have not been mixed/combined fully  -  could be wrong, but if this were blown then wouldn't there be a polished pontil/blowing iron scar somewhere.           Not old, in my opinion - no particular reason for thinking it's older than 1960 - 70, or even more recent.
quote...................."Seems a fairly stylised design that ive not seen before"........ not so sure that I'm seeing what it's a stylized design of  -  a barrel did you have in mind :)
I assume it's solid  -  and do the mould seams encircle the piece, or are they limited to part only.

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on August 20, 2013, 09:11:40 AM

Hi and thanks paul for the questions the seams are limited to one side in the middle which leads me to believe it was in a two piece mould but can only see remnants on one side, I guess the colour is an odd one although it does look a lot like cloud glass. The base has been polished to create a smooth firm surface..The design i guess is very barrell shaped lol maybe not so modernist after all...

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 20, 2013, 11:11:40 AM

It's a very odd construction; is it sealed?

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on August 20, 2013, 01:31:17 PM

Sealed?
Sorry im not sure of the way you mean.dan :)

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 20, 2013, 02:10:36 PM

Your pictures seems to show a hollow item with no access to the interior

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on August 20, 2013, 03:05:45 PM

Ah, No access is available to the inside of the glass.. :)
It reminds me of a piece of scandinavian glass that you may see on an architects desk im not sure why,lol.
Im flummoxed... ???

Title: Re: Modernist shape cloud glass ashtray????
Post by: Ivo on August 20, 2013, 04:17:17 PM

two tone pressed glass in modernist shapes - hmmmm.....
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/japanese_glass/japaneseglass_home.htm