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Title: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: auliya on September 09, 2013, 01:57:44 AM

Good Morning,

I have recently acquired this vase that someone suggested might be Kralik but I cannot find anything quite like it online. It is 8 inches high and is only very slightly iridescent. I am hoping someone recognises it and can help with the maker.

many thanks in advance
Auliya
Brisbane
Qld Australia

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: glassobsessed on September 09, 2013, 07:34:48 AM

Can we see a photo of the base showing the textured pattern clearly, that would be useful.

John

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: auliya on September 09, 2013, 10:09:09 PM

Here is a photo of the base, it has a rough pontil mark in the centre. The vase has been tentatively identified as Rindskopf, one very similar was shown here http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/42450-rindskopf-pink-martele-serpent-vase

cheers
Auliya

PS the small inclusion in the base is a tiny stone I haven't attempted to dislodge at this point

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: keith on September 09, 2013, 11:09:38 PM

The shape is very much like a pair of Kralik martele vases I have...

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: auliya on September 09, 2013, 11:29:41 PM

Thank you for your input. Those vases are definitely a similar shape. Did you look at the link in my last post?

However the consensus seems to be that Kralik didn't use applied snakes, only Loetz and Rindskopf did. Kralik did use applied trailing (?) but not snakes. Are you familiar with this? This has a definite head with 2 eyes. I know nothing about this sort of glass, so am just repeating what others are telling me :-)

cheers
Auliya

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: obscurities on September 10, 2013, 02:29:28 AM

I would attribute this piece to Rindskopf. It is correct that Kralik is not really known for this type of snake work.
I would also add that this is not really indicative of any Loetz production I am familiar with.

The small stone is likely ash trapped in the glass. I would leave it alone.

Hope this helps...
Craig

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: flying free on September 10, 2013, 04:42:27 PM

 I have a vase with an applied snake that I've been trying to identify.
Out of curiosity is it possible to have a side on clear profile shot of the foot of your vase please - I'm wondering if it narrows in towards the base or has a shallow 'foot' after the flared bottom and before the base iyswim?
Keith is it possible to have a side on view of one of your vases as well please if you have time?
I'll post mine separately once I find the camera.
thanks so much.
m

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: keith on September 10, 2013, 06:33:54 PM

Ok, ;D ;D

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: keith on September 10, 2013, 11:13:01 PM

This do ? ;D

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: flying free on September 10, 2013, 11:16:29 PM

lovely and thank you :)  I don't suppose it has a shallow foot after it curves in at the base does it please?
thanks
m

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: auliya on September 10, 2013, 11:51:32 PM

I am not sure what you mean by "a shallow foot after it curves in at the base "? do you have a photo?

Mine has a foot that flares out at the bottom of the vase, is hollow (as in it holds water) and underneath it is slightly concave with a rough pontil mark in the centre.

cheers
auliya

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: flying free on September 11, 2013, 09:19:40 AM

thank you for adding pictures.
my vase is hollow all the way to the bottom  as well but the mould gives it a shallow 'foot' after the base that flares out.
I've attached a pic to show you what I mean.  The colour is not well represented in the photo as the green is a bright limey green - the photo dulls it.
I'll add a new thread request for it.
m

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: keith on September 11, 2013, 04:46:47 PM

Both have  a base like yours m,with shallow foot,although one has a polished pontil and this one broken, ;D ;D

Title: Re: Victorian Vase with Applied Snake Kralik? Loetz?
Post by: flying free on September 11, 2013, 09:54:25 PM

ah interesting :) thank you.
I'm wondering what my vase could be - I thought it might be Kralik despite having read they never made vases with serpents or snakes.
I'll post it in a mo.
m