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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on September 11, 2013, 10:31:39 PM
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about 12" tall iirc (no tape measure), the green is very limey bright although the photo dulls it unfortunately.
Mould blown, cut rim, very neatly finished base with spots going right under the base. Spots have been marvered in and it isn't cased over.
The snake is also opaline but has been covered in dark crimson elongated spots so you can only see it's opaline inside right at the mouth of the snake. The whole body is done with the crimson spots marvered onto the opaline but they merge together so make it look as though it's totally 'cased' in crimson.
The shape of the neck flare and up to the rim reminds me of a Rindkopf martele vase I've seen, but the opaline I thought is very similar to Kralik pieces I've seen (I'll try and find a link in a mo to show the similarity of the body).
Link here - the photo I took is on black and the opaline isn't quite as transparent as these in the link but it is very transparent contrary to what it might look like in my photo.
http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralik-images/opalescentdeco/kod2.jpg
more links below to Kralik pieces that I think have similarities to my vase
Any thoughts much appreciated.
m
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p.s. :)
it also reminds me of this (the one on the left of the set of 4)
http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikhyacintharray.html
and these under 'Kralik coloured spots'
http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralik-images/coloredspots/coloredspots2.jpg
and the opaline glass is like those pieces such as these
http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralik-images/harlequinopal/kharopal2.jpg
and this
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It looks like Kralik to me,couple of your links don't work for me,see if this works...no it didn't,it was the link to 'Kralik corded' on Craigs site,what do you think ?
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Although not written in stone, Kralik is not known for doing snakes, and I am referring to ones that have eyes and a head as this one appears to..... That certainly does not mean they never did. I can not remember an example of a coil of any kind by Kralik with this sort of decor on the coil or snake itself.
Rindskopf did do snakes, and the size is kind of like Rindskopf, as they appeared to like making larger pieces.... The colors and decor are a little different for them, at least as far as we think we understand their production.....
It is a great piece of qlass though..... The colors and shape are fabulous.....
Not much help I am afraid....
Craig
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Keith - yes I also thought it was similar to the corded pieces, something about the shape of them and their rims as well - however they all appear to have some iridescence and this one doesn't so I didn't do a link to those, but it's yet another 'similarity'with Kralik pieces :)
Craig, thanks :) I can see your point - but so far everything I've looked at has similarities with Kralik pieces but not with Rindskopf strangely. The only other vague similarity to Rindskopf that I could pick up on is the colour combination of the dark red and green which seems to be a combination they liked using.
I wonder if this might turn out to be the first Kralik vase with a snake lol.
m
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I wonder if this pair share the same maker? I have seen these candlesticks or perhaps vases in a few different colours which include blue frit on the base. The green snakes are not uranium glass, height is around 6" or 7" (16-18cm).
John
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ooh I like those John :)
the way the base of the foot on yours angles in slightly reminds me of something ... maybe Welz vases?
Perhaps neither yours nor mine are Kralik?
Yours reminded me of some of the Kralik corded pieces but without the iridescence the opaline looks different - the white opaline on the Kralik corded looks thicker somehow... slightly different not sure how to explain but it does.
I've added a pic of mine that I took against white background. It bleaches out the green on the vase but it does show how transparent mine is as you can see the snake through the opaline hopefully.
m
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Perhaps contacting Poschinger might be an option? They did similar shapes in Tango if I remember correctly... :-\
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that is a very good suggestion :-* thank you.
I'll have a good search now.
I did find this on a quick look
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/56953-helios-shift-with-uranium--maker-posch
and this picture here
http://p2.la-img.com/493/18727/6350048_1_l.jpg
but no iridescence on mine
I'll come back if I get any more info.
m
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do you remember my mother of pearl bowl with the green spotting m? looks very similar to your green base - that was Kralik >>>>runs away!
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I do vaguely - I'll have a search on the board to see if I can find it.
Thanks Mel :)
m
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http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,50149.msg283220.html#msg283220
link to Mel's bowl with green spots and other items on that thread that are Kralik coloured spots.
And another here
http://www.nouveauglass.co.uk/kralik-glass/kralik-vase-3/
the colour of the green looks very similar but the spots don't look quite the same. That might be because smaller pieces were used to marver in or also because my vase is stretched up to make the shape.
Anyway it's a good reference just in case. Thanks Mel :)
m
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Mel, was yours iridescent btw? the pics look as though it was just opaline glass rather than mother of pearl - but that could just be my eyesight ;D
m
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I would call mine pearlescent m, if that helps. It was the spotting that looked similar and rang a bell. The overall shape of yours (minus threading) is also ringing a vague bell at the back of my mind...if it materialises I'll add it :-)
happy hunting
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thanks :)
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I'd forgotten about this thread.
I think these are all Fritz Heckert , Designed by Otto Thamm.
See info on a new thread I made today (didn't think to check before posting):
'Just adding this before I lose it. Exciting find. I bought a vase many years ago at a fair and just put it away thinking I'd never find out who made it. I think it's the same 'range' as this one but different colourway:
https://antikes-glas.de/en/fritz-heckert/nouveau-vase-from-opal-glass-with-crumbling-fusions-fheckert-othamm-p-1565.html?language=en
The vase in the link is 18cm. Mine is 30cm tall by 12cm diameter base and 7.5cm diameter rim.
Anyone else think they're probably the same maker?
The info and reference on the linked vase at Antiques Neuwirth is : Fritz Heckert Petersdorf, Design Otto Thamm, c1903 (source Lit .: S. Zelasko, Fritz Heckert 1866-1923, Page 201. )
m'
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Good spot m. I like the description "opal glass with crumbling fusions", sounds great.
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It's a great description isn't it :)
mm, when I said 'I think all these are Fritz Heckert ' I was actually referring to just John's Glassobsessed's pieces and mine.
I don't know about Mel's bowl or thread.
However ... the link I gave to an item on Dragonfly earlier in this thread when discussing Mel's comments had said at the time 'Kralik' but the info on that link now says it's Fritz Heckert 'Marmopal' :
https://www.nouveauglass.co.uk/antiques/heckert/kralik-vase-3/
So perhaps many of these spotted pieces may turn out to be Fritz Heckert?