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Title: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: dinklepip on October 17, 2013, 03:28:53 PM
Lots about in this design although I have never seen any with the design to the base.  Is this a manufacturer's mark or just decoration? Many thanks
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 17, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
It is a manufacturer's mark, it's English, there are a fair few bits of this around in these chunky textures, all with this mark... and I cannot for the life of me remember the name.

I want to say Tudor, but I don't know if that's because of the rose (ie. Tudor rose).
Tudor is mostly known for cut crystal, but these pieces are decidedly not crystal - they have a greeny-yewllow tinge to the colour - not the best colour for glass.
I think they date to the '70s-'80s.
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: dinklepip on October 17, 2013, 03:53:44 PM
mmmmmmm will have a look around now that the country has been narrowed down  ;D, now you come to mention it Tudor rings a bell because of the rose.  Mine is crystal clear with no tinges
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: dinklepip on October 17, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
looks very similar to the Jaffe Rose mark
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 17, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
That's unusual - and interesting too, that yours is crystal clear. :)

I did recognise the actual texture and shape of the vase from your pic. - I expected to see the rose on the base.

Ihave a sneaking suspicion the id might be in one of Andy MacConnell's books.... I will trawl a bit...
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 17, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Got it.

Bagley.

Andy's "Miller's 20th Century glass", p101, bottom right. I'm copying out relevant bit of the caption under a handkerchief vase for you.

"Pressed Wild Oak Handkerchief vase. Probably designed and produced in 1975, but when Bagley ceased making fancy glass in 1975, the moulds for Wild Oak were transferred to Rockware who produced it for a short period. 15cm(57/8in).
The centre of the base is impressed with a large White Rose, the symbol of Yorkshire."

The moulds being used in two different places might well account for the difference in the quality of the metal used.


So perhaps yours is Bagley - but I've only ever seen Rockware.  ;D
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: dinklepip on October 17, 2013, 04:14:24 PM
OMG Bagley.....absolutely NOT one I would have even thought of.  Thanks so much
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 17, 2013, 04:23:26 PM
 :)


Your first pic shows the glass as a bit greeny-yellow...  ???
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: dinklepip on October 17, 2013, 06:25:41 PM
things look different on everyone's computer screen.  Can assure you it's as clear as a bell ;)
Title: Re: Bark Vase ID help please
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 17, 2013, 06:48:01 PM
I've seen some fairly opaque bells in my time...  ;)

I'm glad I did mention the colour though, it got us straight to the nub of what we ae discussing, and we now know there is probably a very good reason for there being different colours of metal used, and it is good to discover yours is most likely to be Bagley rather than Rockware.

I have handled a fair few of these, always being interested in the making and design and quality of the pressing - and then put off buying because I don't like the colour.

I do believe you! ;D