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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: squeakyjoe on October 26, 2013, 01:07:37 PM

Title: id please
Post by: squeakyjoe on October 26, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
Can somebody please help me
Title: Re: id please
Post by: alpha on October 26, 2013, 03:23:50 PM
It's a very nice antique weight. Long ago we would have said Bohemian, then a few years ago we would have thought  St. Mande or perhaps Grenelle (ie French). Now current research being done by TROPDEVIN is indicating some of these weights may have been made with Islington Glass Works canes (ie English). Tropdevin is the expert who should weight in on this one.
Title: Re: id please
Post by: tropdevin on October 26, 2013, 04:04:50 PM
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Hi.  I bid on this (and the other one from the same maker in the same sale), but did not win either - now I know who got one! ;D

What alpha says reflects the current state of play.  Strictly speaking they are by an unknown maker, and no one is certain what country they were made in even.  I am researching these pieces (maybe 10 similar are known?), and various bits of evidence are pointing to them being made by the Islington Glass Works...but that is not yet a positive attribution. 

I have written an article discussing these pieces and much of the evidence for the 2014 Bulletin of the Paperweight Collectors Association, Inc.  I also wrote an article about them in the August 2013 issue of the Paperweight Collectors Circle Newsletter.

Alan
Title: Re: id please
Post by: squeakyjoe on October 26, 2013, 04:51:56 PM
Hi thanks for your info can't remember there Bing another paperweight in the room that day  :'( I'll now go and track your articles down For more reading as weights are not a strong point for me so I want to learn thanks again
Title: Re: id please
Post by: tropdevin on October 26, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
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Hi Joe

Your basket weight was Lot 636 in the auction. The other (with a green and white basket) was Lot 635, and sold for half as much again.

Alan

Alan
Title: Re: id please
Post by: squeakyjoe on October 26, 2013, 09:38:34 PM
Lol fair do to be honest I was after some thing else in the lot this was just a nice bonus can't say I saw the other lot thanks for all your info
Title: Re: id please
Post by: tropdevin on October 27, 2013, 08:49:30 AM
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Hi Joe.

I think you are correct that there was not another one in the room: we are talking about different auctions.

I assumed that yours was the one I bid on in a sale on 24 October - but there was nothing else in that lot (I only have an auction house thumbnail of the piece, which I cannot reproduce here for copyright reasons). Although these are very uncommon pieces, two must have gone to auction at broadly the same time. Both had blue/white stave baskets, both were close concentrics, and both use distinctive millefiori canes from a very limited set found only in these pieces. So yours is another member of the group.

I would welcome images for my records if you were able to email them to me. Incidentally, does yours have a flat polished base?

I have attached an image of two examples in our collection.

Alan
Title: Re: id please
Post by: donaldf on October 27, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
Alan, I got 635. Don
Title: Re: id please
Post by: donaldf on October 27, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
Alan, if you would be interested, once the weight has been delivered to me, I could forward it to you to help with your research. When you are done, you could post it back, Don
Title: Re: id please
Post by: tropdevin on October 27, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
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Hi Don.

Many thanks for the offer.  What would be useful would be good top view / side view / base images, so I can examine the canes in detail.

Alan
Title: Re: id please
Post by: donaldf on October 27, 2013, 06:37:12 PM
Alan, will do ! .... it is just that I thought you undertook non destructive testing (uv etc) on the victim... Don
Title: Re: id please
Post by: squeakyjoe on October 27, 2013, 08:19:14 PM
Was thinking I was the only one that rates paperweights at this room and it's not online sorry but don't want to say which room but plz let me take some proper pictures with lighting and what not and I would be happy to e-mail them to you as you have bin so help full thank you