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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: chriscooper on October 28, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
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Thought these were Gordiola Spain by Jose Cirera Royo why do google searches keeping veering me off to Czechoslovakia and Moser.
Thanks for any information to keep my listing accurate.
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Hi
can you tell me where you found the name Jose Cirera Royo please?
I've been trying to look up some information and hadn't come across someone with that name. Do you have a thread link?
I thought Royo and Cirera were two different people. Not come across the Jose bit at all.
thanks :)
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Try this:
www.royoart.com
Then there is this that seems to indicate that Royo & Cirera are two different people.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=23614.0
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Try this:
www.royoart.com
False trail, nothing to do with the catalan enameler @ all.
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You know I wondered about that, but figured maybe at some point he did glass decorating plus when I tried to find "Jose Cirera Royo" the only info I could find related to items for sale & God only knows if they simply copied info thats an old wives tale from the past so figured there is no such person & maybe Cirera & Royo are actually two totally different people after all, but could not find anything related to a Jose Cirera, only a Jose Cirera (or Cire) Royo a Catalan artist of Catalonia Spain. The glass itself most likely from Gordiola Glass Works.
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As far as I am aware from reading various posts including the most recent discussions on this board, the 'Cire' that is referred to is actually 'Cirera' and is a Genis Cirera Casanovas hence my topic here which I posted only yesterday and included Gordiola and Royo in the header:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,54597.msg309336.html#msg309336
I've not found any evidence on any threads that are the most recent discussions, that Royo and Cirera are the same person. And none also that mention someone called Jose Royo Cirera painting glass.
I've not found any information further on who the 'Royo' is that signed some of these painted pieces though.
No idea if the cup is from Gordiola because I suppose it's possible that blanks from Gordiola and other companies might have been used?
m
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Got it from here m
http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/abuzzantiques/items/1098574/item1098574cyberattic.html
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oh :-\ I'm not sure that information is correct - I suspect it might have come from looking at some discussions on this board but not all of them perhaps?
I did find this today which I believe is ceramic. It is also signed Royo.
http://www.todocoleccion.net/jarron-esmaltado-royo~x31319945
So it seems 'Royo' painted ceramics and glass.
Sorry it doesn't help further with your id though unfortunately.
m
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So evidently all thats been written about this "Royo" individual for quite some time is basically a bit of a work of fiction no matter which version? Just for the heck of it I tried Royo Spanish Artist & came up with two other Royo(s), Luis & Romulo Royo although no sure adult comic graphics, Heavy Metal, National Lampoon quite fit into this category regarding Luis although he did have a decoration studio in the 70s. Romulo(s) website simply took too long to bring up his work so I quit.
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Ivo had a confirmation email from Gordiola that some of the pieces Royo decorated were Gordiola glass pieces.
Link here:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,20531.msg117338.html#msg117338
It didn't say that all the pieces Royo decorated were Gordiola though. And obviously they are not. I don't mean to speculate, but from what I read on the link to the book about Cirera it seems there were decorators who decorated ceramics and glass, and the link I've just given to a piece signed by Royo and described as Porcelan, is ceramic, and therefore that would be the case here.
I don't think I'm clear on whether Royo was a person or a company still though. And haven't found anything to determine that yet.
m
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Well I talked to the Gordiola people at the time and they confirmed Royo was an enameler from Cataluna (so NOT Mallorca) who used their blanks to enamel. Whether or not he was full or part time resident at the factory or had his own studio on the main land remains unclear. What is clear, however, is that he specialised in mudejar themes and some of the larger works are absolutely miracles of complexity.
In later life he used any blank he could find - like Italian made tea mugs and peanut bowls. One such bowl in the shape of an elephant turned up which was produced by Stiver AFTER 1966 - so we can be pretty sure he was still doing it around 1970.
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I have also just linked to a bowl on my Gordiola Glass plate thread that is signed Royo and is dated 1977.
link here - small bowl enamelled and with Bon Natale 1977 on it signed Royo
http://www.todocoleccion.net/vidrio-esmaltado-firmado-royo~x27465872
They are wonderful Ivo - but some are pretty standard fare. Cirera also decorated beautifully. I had wondered if there was alink between Cirera and Royo (some sort of familial link) because there are similarities and the piece I found in the book seemed to say Cirera's business was taken over by his daughter and son. No names of either given though in the book. But it could just be that the similarities are coincidental and it's a 'Spanish' way of enamelling perhaps.
m
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According to "La Verrerie Européenne des années 50" which is an exhibition catalogue Marseille 1988:
Genis Cirera Casanovas, born 1890 in Badalona, died 1970 in Barcelona. Started glass decorating at age 11 using a technique he designed himself and continued to decorate until well into the 1960s. Prizes and distinctions: 1928-1953 numerous distinctions from the Artes Decorativas in Bilbao, Barcelona, Sabadell, Manresa, Vic, Sitges, and Lleida. 1953 prix d'honneur on the internatoinal exhibition in Madrid. Exhibitions: 1984 Barcelona "Cent Anys de Vidre Artistic" and 1986: Barcelona "Llegat Abrate als Museus de Barcelone"
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which matches the information I put on this thread here about Cirera
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,54597.msg309336.html#msg309336
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