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Title: Swedish or Danish Stemware pattern?
Post by: cubby01 on November 03, 2013, 09:36:18 PM

I'm thinking Oreffors as they look (to me) a lot like a Simon Gates design from the 20s but I'd been assuming they were more '60s or '70s.   They are very well made and have a nice 'ring' to them when plucked.  These are 5-1/4" ( 13.5cm) tall.  Of course no maker's mark or signature on them.  They've been puzzling me for years.  Any help with them?
Thanks!

Title: Re: Swedish or Danish Stemware pattern?
Post by: Ivo on November 03, 2013, 10:01:12 PM

I would be looking at Boussu first, then at Empoli.

Title: Re: Swedish or Danish Stemware pattern?
Post by: cubby01 on November 03, 2013, 11:17:08 PM

Quote from: Ivo on November 03, 2013, 10:01:12 PM

I would be looking at Boussu first, then at Empoli.

Thanks Ivo.  Not to be flippant but why?  I know you are more knowledgeable about glass in general than I am so help me understand what leans that way.  Is it the workmanship, finishing, shape, color, ?  I looked online at as much Boussu and Empoli stemware as I could in the past hour (I know, not exhaustive) and I didn't see anything coming up that would suggest Boussu.  Maybe some Empoli but I couldn't find this shape stem or body.  A general search of Belgian or Italian glasses didn't turn up anything either.

My stems are certainly hand worked.  I did find some stems on the retroartglass store site that appear to be the same as mine except for the glass color.  Same shape and height as mine but theirs are more transparent and mine don't fluoresce.  (by the way, I realized just now the color in my photos is probably shifted slightly.)

http://www.retroartglass.com/store/item/360mb/View_All_Vintage_Glass/Art_Deco_Smoke_Crystal_Stemware_Set_of_24.html
 (http://www.retroartglass.com/store/item/360mb/View_All_Vintage_Glass/Art_Deco_Smoke_Crystal_Stemware_Set_of_24.html)

Title: Re: Swedish or Danish Stemware pattern?
Post by: Ivo on November 04, 2013, 07:03:16 AM

For all tableware it makes sense to start at the large tablewae producers of the era - the sixties and the seventies. And amethyst used to be just the thing made in great variety by Boussu and in Empoli. But there are others of course, mainly in Germany. Think of Friedrich, Zwiesel, Wmf, of Portieux in France and of Bormioli in Parma. The quality would be identical for all of them, as these were made jn the same manner.