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Title: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: chriscooper on November 15, 2013, 09:46:03 PM
5" diameter 4.5" high huge internal bubble with brown streaks and controlled bubbles
Just tried to load a photo from my phone and are too large will post images tomorrow from my computer
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: chriscooper on November 16, 2013, 05:39:07 PM
First a grumble  :) No problems posting photos on any other message boards or social network site from my phone or tablet except this one ? ???
A big gut feeling this is W/f it weighs in at almost 3 kg nice neat polished pontil mark plenty of base ware.

Chris
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 16, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
If nothing else, you are obviously vastly superior to me at operating a mobile 'phone.  :)

Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Tony G on November 16, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
Hi Chris,
              I'm not sure about this one. Brian Slingsby refers to the 9694 doorstop that is in the 1969 catalogue which indeed is 4 3/4 " in diameter. That was made with a blue spiral and an internal large bubble. He also mentions a small number with a green spiral, but nothing about a brown colour with an internal bubble. Then again this whispy colouring does look a lot like some of the "streaky" pieces. It could be an unusual "one-off".

If not WF then someone was copying their idea !!

Tony
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: palo400 on November 16, 2013, 09:19:14 PM
Chris
I've seen this piece in the flesh. It's a great piece of glass, the small bubble pattern, large internal bubble, streaks in the glass had me thinking Whitefriars.
Paperweights not my thing but I think you've found a one off!

Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Derek on November 16, 2013, 09:25:48 PM
Hi Chris and Tony

Here is my example - the spiral is effectively black although holding it to the light there is the smallest hint of green. The spiral surrounds the large elongated bubble.  The base is VERY like the one Chris has a very deeply ground pontil with a wide collar. Mine is 4 3/4" diameter by 3 3/4" tall and weighs in at 6 lbs (approx 2.7 kg).

Best regards

Derek
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: chriscooper on November 16, 2013, 11:13:58 PM
Pretty sure now it is right Tony. Thanks Derek checked it again 4.75" across 4" high and weighs 2.8kg. Nige you have a good eye  :)

Chris
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Tony G on November 17, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
Hi Derek,
                I reckon that your example is almost certainly one of the rare "green" spiral versions with an overly dense green inclusion. I have a couple of "green" grounds that are virtually black except in the very brightest light.

Chris's example does seem to be a one off. The streaky range of glass items didn't appear at Whitefriars until after this doorstop ceased production. It may well be a "crossover" item where the colours or techniques of an incoming range end up on an older design as either they were deliberately experimenting, or someone just fancied trying it out in their lunchbreak.

Quite jealous of you both.

Cheers,

Tony
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: chriscooper on November 17, 2013, 08:32:26 PM
Tony, it's yours mate, I bought it with you in mind, always been happy to see my pieces go to 'true' collectors. Julian made a suggestion on another site the streaky brown used for the knobblies which I think is correct maybe a bit left in the pot?
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Derek on November 18, 2013, 08:01:12 PM
Hi Tony

Are you coming to the PCC Christmas meeting at Knowle on Dec 7th.

If so, I will bring it with me for you to cast your expert eye over it and get even more jealous !

Best regards

Derek
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Tony G on November 19, 2013, 09:03:23 AM
Hi Derek,
              Yes, I'll be there, you tease!!! Should I bring some pre-1947 silver coinage to tickle one of your old hobbies ?? Just joking.

Regards,

Tony
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Derek on November 19, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
Hi Tony

Yes please do as the price of silver is well up compared with those days ! 

See you at Knowle

Derek
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: tropdevin on November 20, 2013, 10:02:52 PM
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Hi Derek.

We could use the dump to prop the door to the meeting room open in Knowle on 7 December!

Alan
Title: Re: Huge Whitefriars ? doorstop
Post by: Derek on November 20, 2013, 10:23:23 PM
Hi Alan

You will need to reinforce the floor first - it might end up in the cellar !

Derek