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Title: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 18, 2013, 09:32:43 AM
Hello,

I do hope someone will be able to point me in the right direction.

An art glass seal I sent to Australia arrived with a broken tail. As the seal has sentimental significance, the receiver is desperate to have it repaired. 

Does anyone know of any place in Australia (or the UK or anywhere else) which could mend the piece?  I've attached a picture of the poor creature.

Thank you,
Anik  :'(


Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 18, 2013, 06:27:08 PM
Looks as if it might be a difficult thing to repair well - it's in a clear part of the glass. I can't tell too well from the image how bad it really is, it does look like there are at least two bits which need stuck back on, this can cause problems (from my previous bad experiences with glass glue. But that might have been my bad practice rather than anything else!).

Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 18, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
The tail has got 2 bits broken off... so it doesn't look very glass-repairer-friendly?  Sigh.

Thank you for taking the time to reply, Sue. x
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: flying free on November 18, 2013, 06:51:40 PM
Anik I'm sure a good glass repairer will be able to make it look good again.  I don't know of any in Australia but hopefully Ross et al will come up with someone for you.

Quite bizarrely I've only had one thing break in the post and that was a heavy glass seal sent UK to UK.
m
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Paul S. on November 18, 2013, 07:12:45 PM
as a suggestion, is the cross section of such a size that a lampworker might be able to fuse a clear piece to replace the loss??          Possibly replacing clear glass only is easier than having to match missing colour.              Is this piece from a known maker Anik?

But whatever, my sympathies to you in view of what is obviously an important piece of glass. :)
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Paul S. on November 18, 2013, 07:21:46 PM
although I can't see a picture of a seal in the book, Wedgwood certainly did produce one, and bluey greens were one of their colourways.          In Susan Tobin's book the seal has the code No. RSW 237 (SG237).
Just thought it worth mentioning  -  as if this were a Wedgwood example then the possibility of finding a replacement might be easier than if it were 'of no known make'.               Of course, you may already know that this seal has nothing to do with Wedgwood.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 18, 2013, 07:23:16 PM
 :-[
I was only going by my own pathetic attempt to repair a flange on a vase (one of my favourite bits of Mdina - a two-tone Helter Skelter which had loads of iridesence and a lovely chunky shape).
I dropped a big Mdina stopper on it. :'(

It had broken off in multiple triangular sections - and when I tried to stick them together, then back in to the piece - all the glue between the edges took up too much room for them all to fit back in.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 18, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
I've just noticed the photo has your name and address on the packaging, in the background Anik.

I can't blow it up well enough to read it, but somebody more computer savvy than I am might be able to fiddle with it - if they were so inclined. Perhaps you might like to ask a moderator to remove it - so you can post one with that bit cut off or blanked out!  :-*
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 18, 2013, 07:55:13 PM
Yikes!  You're right... my personal information is visible. I'll ask a moderator to remove the photo.  :-[
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 18, 2013, 08:01:23 PM
Somebody would have to be able to fiddle with it to see. The pic. doesn't blow up very big when you click on it. :-*
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 18, 2013, 08:05:10 PM
Alrighty, I've reported myself. Hopefully a kind moderator will remove the photo. (Thank you for spotting my boo-boo, Sue).

And thank you M and Paul for the comments.

The seal is by Miloslav Janku for ZBS.  The buyer is sentimental about it -- unfortunately it seems I did a lousy job packing it and it arrived to him damaged.  I cried about it in the morning because I've had to refund him for the purchase... not a good thing when financially (and pretty much otherwise), everything is about as fu**ed up as it can get.  Anyway, I wanted to help him find someone who would repair it for him.

Thank you again, everyone. x
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anne on November 19, 2013, 12:44:40 AM
I've fiddled with it and no-one can read it now. All fettled, Anik. ;)
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 19, 2013, 01:11:42 AM
Anne, you are a fiddling genius.  Thank you so, so much.  :-*
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: glassobsessed on November 19, 2013, 09:01:35 AM
Two options for repair, glueing the pieces back together or having the tail ground and polished.

You can get very good results with 'specialist' glass glue - the type that hardens with exposure to UV light (sunshine works fine). This type of glue can give a very strong bond and dries clear. Grinding and polishing requires someone who has the right equipment and skills for glass repairs, perhaps an engraver.

John
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 19, 2013, 09:11:47 AM
Thank you, John.  I'll pass on that information to the person.


And thank you again to everyone who replied. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 19, 2013, 11:52:47 AM
It might work well if it is just two clean breaks.
I think you can see how many breaks my flange had to accommodate.....

and I was a bit "cack-handed" when doing it.

I got more glue stuck on my fingers than anywhere else.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: kittykittykitty on November 19, 2013, 01:02:02 PM
Hi, theres a lady who has been recommended on Fb on a Australian group, they are very impressed with what she has done.
I can if allowed add a link for her if you like.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: neil53 on November 19, 2013, 01:13:47 PM
Hi, one of the great glass restorers in the world works out of Adelaide, SA - Ian McKenzie (sp?) - who is well known to Peter (oldglassman) as he partnered with Peter on researching the Jacobite engravings.  I am not sure that he works with modern glass and I seem to have lost his email address but Peter will have it.

Neil
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 19, 2013, 01:58:40 PM
Of course you can add a link to the repairing lady, kittykittykitty.
(I'm not going to abbrieviate you into intials - they'd be a bit dodgy!)
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: oldglassman on November 19, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
 Hi ,
           No idea if Ian could help with this 1 other than possibly re-modelling  what remains,  http://www.craneglass.com.au/

  cheers ,
                 Peter.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Anik R on November 19, 2013, 07:44:55 PM
Wow, thank you everybody!  I'll pass the link on to the owner of the seal... certainly worth a try, and if all else fails, glass glue might do the trick.

Though I don't visit the GMB as often as I used to, I still think it's the best forum around. You guys are the best.
Anik


P.S. Sue, I don't think you did all that bad of a job with your piece... it's just a little more artistic now than it was before. Tee hee.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 19, 2013, 07:54:14 PM
I display it high up, with the repair and the big crack to the back. It still looks fabulous - only I know different.  :'(

I hope your buyer manages something to make it a bit happier.
I can't imagine finding another would be at all easy.
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: flying free on November 20, 2013, 12:25:00 AM
Sue that's a much better job than I would make.  I've one glued compote where all I had to do was glue the bowl onto the stem and it wasn't easy to hold it still until it 'cured'.  My little Clichy jug sits in a cabinet with bits inside it.  I'm not even going to try with that as the last vase I broke, I ended up binning.
But possibly, if you repair glass on a regular basis, then it might be more simple perhaps knowing the tricks of the trade etc.?
m
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: kittykittykitty on November 20, 2013, 01:42:32 AM
Hi here's the link, just noticed she does not say glass though. Everything else so it may still be worth checking, plus she comes recommended which is even better.
https://www.facebook.com/CeramicRepair

Hi Sue, yes would have been abit "yuck"   :-[ without my full name, never noticed that before  :o
Title: Re: Help please... need a glass repairer in Australia (or anywhere else)
Post by: Paul S. on November 20, 2013, 09:54:32 AM
Probably we tend not to repair (with glue) unless something is truly worth keeping  -  otherwise it goes in the bin.             I have used 'blu tack' to support two or perhaps three pieces whilst the glue cures  -  and if there are multiple pieces then the reconstruction can be built up piece by piece, with each one setting before the next is put in place.             Cocktail sticks are useful for mixing and applying the glue  -  just the right sort of fine point that's needed, and although it's very hard when cured, the excess glue of these two part adhesives can be trimmed with a very sharp stanley or craft knife.
I don't think that however good the repair is - when using glue - that you can ever say 'look an invisibel (see, I did the same Christine) mend' - part of the answer is that when handling one piece of glass to make sure there isn't another underneath - to avoid the possibility of butter fingers ;D

Another tip I discovered the hard way, is not to put one tumbler inside another - they lock up and one or the other might then break :'(