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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: agincourt17 on November 18, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
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A small clear moulded glass decanter, embossed Regd. No. 726384 to the base. Stopper appears to be original. 10 inches tall, including stopper.
(Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by wwe_undertaker-_fan).
RD 726384 is not listed at http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos08.htm.
The number should have been registered in December 1926 or January 1927.
This design has already been discussed in passing at http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,588.msg2608.html#msg2608
and RD 726384 is not in the Blue Book.
I though it may have been a Clayton Mayers registration, but its not listed at
http://www.cloudglass.com/ClaytonMayers.htm
Frank has also discussed a novelty musical whisky bottle or decanter in green glass with the same RD number at http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,200.msg726.html#msg726
and he links to a photo on the Scotlands Glass site at
http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=2448&category_id=242&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6
though the caption has a typo in that the RD number is given as RD 725384. This musical bottle has a bakelite screw cap instead of a glass stopper, and a musical movement on a plywood base is fixed in the hollow underneath the base.
The precise registration details in all cases seem to remain unresolved. I wonder if Paul S. could check the design registration details at TNA at some point, please? (I have taken the liberty of adding them to the GMB RD lookup requests list).
Fred.
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My hand-annotated copy of the Blue Book has RD 726384 listed as J C Cottle, dated 6/1/27? (not sure why the ? nor where the info came from... shall go rummage for the source.)
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Ahhh found it! The info I annotated into the Blue Book came from Thomas Joyce, who also has this bottle: http://www.inchicore-pressedglass-museum.org/0161.htm - and he told me by email that he had contacted the National Archives who gave him the following info about this RD no.... :
"Reg number 726384 for 6 January 1926 ref National Archives is for J.C.Cottle. His address is listed as Napier Avenue Hurlingham Fulham London SW6"
This also explains my ? after 1927 as Thomas gives 1926, but the numbers either side of this one would indicate it should be 1927.
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I'd agree - obviously a typo and has to be 1927 - just wouldn't fit in with adjacent Nos. for January 1926.
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Thank you, Anne - a star yet again! - and also thanks to Thomas Joyce, of course, for TNA corroboration.
Certainly very 'Cottle-ish', and presumably made in Czechoslovakia again.
I will add the RD number to the GMB RD Number Database on the Glass gallery asap.
I will also put links to this thread on the other two GMB discussions to which I have alluded.
Fred.
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other thread the number appears to be a typo. Will recheck the bottle as cannot see rd in pics... but will be a wee while.
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National Archive details for 726384 are ..........
Representation BT 52/1198 --- and for the Register it's BT 53/52
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Thank you, Paul.
Certainly confirms that the glass stopper with decanter is the original.
Deletion of RD 726384 from the GMB RD lookup requests lists will be requested forthwith.
Fred.