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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: casalibre on November 22, 2013, 03:02:30 PM

Title: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: casalibre on November 22, 2013, 03:02:30 PM
On ebay runs:
gi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221321586953&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:DE:3160

eBay-Artikelnummer:
221321586953

Any opinions?
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: mildawg on November 22, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
No it's not.
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: Tony G on November 22, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
Hi,
      I agree with the last opinion AND believe that this type of request for an ID is fair and NOT against the site rules. Having had a similar request for an ID moved to the "selling" section (where it was totally lost), I would like a moderator's statement on what is acceptable and what not.

Thanks,

Tony
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 22, 2013, 07:57:53 PM
The paperweight in question is not being sold by casalibre. It's only sales of board members that are moved to the marketplace, though many people choose not to comment on live auctions
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: Tony G on November 22, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
Hi, my ID request that was moved, was an item on sale on eBay.com in the USA. I originally posted photos only, with the seller's permission, but because these were too small I posted the eBay reference as here. I had no interest in the sale but the item was moved.

Regards,

 
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 22, 2013, 08:07:56 PM
Perhaps the moderator thought it was your sale
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: Tony G on November 22, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
Hi,  that seems the only reasonable explanation. However take a look. It is in the Glass Market place posted on November 10th. It's the only one there that has a title of ID Help please etc.

it seems striaght forward to me in the first sentence.

cheers,
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: casalibre on November 22, 2013, 09:07:48 PM
What a stupid discussion!
I have often asked here on the board about running auctions, because I want to bid, because I am collest paperweights but I am not perfect.
All I want is to know what it is.
In my opinion it is not what the seller has described, but what is it????
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: Tony G on November 22, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
Hi Casalibre,
                   my apologies for digressing from the point of YOUR posting, however there are more polite ways of making that point !

Regards,
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: tropdevin on November 22, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
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Hi.. It is not Clichy - it is Murano.

Always check where the seller is from....

Alan
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: chriscooper on November 22, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
Hi Tony, for what it's worth I completely agree with you. Maybe Kevin will explain better why he chose to 'single' yours out? lot's of post's particularly in this section pointing to current eBay listings and Auctions never seem to be a problem though some people don't like commenting on current auctions or giving valuations  :)
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: KevinH on November 23, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
I sent my explanation to Tony by email. That was done at the time he queried the move of the post.
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: chriscooper on November 23, 2013, 02:15:58 PM
Which does nothing to answer my question as to why that post in particular needed to be moved when members often post queries to eBay listings particularly in the paperweight section.

Chris
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: KevinH on November 24, 2013, 12:24:38 AM
The wording of Tony's thread lead me to think that he was assisting somebody in obtaining an ID for a current sales item. I considered that was akin to a Board member making a similar request for their own sales item. In accordance with the description wording for the Market Place forum, I moved the thread.

Tony asked me privately why it was moved and I gave my explanation, together with an option for recreating the thread in this forum. The option was not taken up.
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: bigbri on November 24, 2013, 10:23:08 PM
hi board............
i think that there are so many sellers on ebay with multiple ids now that its impossible to know who is who and whose helping who.....i know for a fact that shill bidding is going on within the paperweights i think that should be a bigger concern to the board than kev h moving something............although we have crossed swords before i think as a whole its a thankless task moderating sometimes and i think they do a bothery good job(kev h/anne) keeping the board safe clean and as friendly as possible........even if i disagree with some of it.........sometimes   :)
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: flying free on December 08, 2013, 09:59:17 PM
Interesting - I think that is happening in general glass sales as well.  Can't prove it but I steer well clear of those sellers that I'm suspicious of just in case.  Likewise I never bid on private sales where identities are hidden and I now check any bid history before I bid.
m
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on December 09, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
Shilling is rife across ebay for anything.  Basically, bid what you want to pay right at the end, don't bid early.  Shilling is a problem for lower value things since ebay stopped you setting a reserve below £50, and starting something at 99p really does mean more people watch and bid than starting it at £25........
Title: Re: Clichy or not?????????
Post by: tropdevin on December 09, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
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Hi.  I think eBay make attempts to root out shill bidding, in that they pick up on different user names at the same IP address, and repeated patterns of specific user names bidding regularly on items from the same seller (but never winning...).

However, this rather modest attempt at policing does not work in some countries (eg Germany) where I believe that the privacy laws prevent eBay from even exercising this limited control.  I have seen on various occasions what appears to me to be very dodgy bidding on German eBay - but I may of course be mistaken.... :-\

Alan