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Title: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: agincourt17 on November 27, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
A small Clarke's pyramid fairy lamp comprising a pyramid-size opalescent yellow glass panelled dome on a clear glass candle cup with the base embossed S.CLARKE FAIRY PYRAMID with dancing fairy trademark at the centre resting on a matching opalescent glass base. The inside of the dome is embossed RD. 430643  – an April 1904 design registration number.

(Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by Simon Warden).

RD 430643 is not in Jenny Thompson,
or Great Glass at  http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos06.htm
or listed at
http://www.fairy-lamp.com/Fairylamp/FairyLampDesignNumbers_All.html
and too early for the Blue Book.

Does anyone have any information as to the precise registration details for RD 430643, please – or is this yet another challenge for Paul S via the GMB RD lookup requests?

I believe that Clarke contracted out the manufacture of all its glassware, so I suppose it is not unlikely that the yellow opalescent components could well have been made by Davidson.

Fred.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – Precise registration details, please?
Post by: agincourt17 on November 27, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
More photos.

Fred.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – Precise registration details, please?
Post by: Paul S. on November 28, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
Quite possibly another CLASS 4 item  - if you add to the list I'll do my best to research at Kew in the coming days.  :)
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – Precise registration details, please?
Post by: agincourt17 on November 28, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
Thank you , Paul - will do.

Fred.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – ?
Post by: Keencollector on November 28, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
I did purchase this fairy light as I knew it to be a Davidson dome in their "Brideshead" pattern.  I have a blue one also but the clear Clarks fairy light base is in a different pattern on this.
The registration number should be 130643.

 I do not think the fluted primrose pearline bowl was meant to be partnered with the light.  This is Davidsons "Kings Panel" and was manufactured in fluted and not fluted rim and has a matching jug. These are more or less miniature in size. 

This is my opinion only from experience in collecting pearline.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – Precise registration details, please?
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 28, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
I wondered about the two bases last night but a bit of rooting revealed such things are around (not in these designs though), so I ignored my thought. Margaret's thoughts confirm my suspicions - the Pearline base is not a good fit
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – Precise registration details, please?
Post by: agincourt17 on November 28, 2013, 11:27:48 AM
Thank you, Margaret – well spotted, and expertly corrected.

I hope your purchase survives (or has survived) the trip to Australia this time.

So, just to clarify, Davidson RD 130643 was registered on 13 August 1889, and “Brideshead” is the pattern name often ascribed to the pattern by American (and other) Davidson collectors. 

This is certainly the first fairy light dome I’ve seen in the pattern, and interesting to learn that you have a blue pearline example too.

I will draw Jim Sapp’s attention to this number re.
http://www.fairy-lamp.com/Fairylamp/FairyLampDesignNumbers_All.html

I will also contact the moderators regarding a change in the topic title to reflect your expert correction of my initial erroneous RD number – perhaps “Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889”.

Fred.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643
Post by: Keencollector on November 28, 2013, 11:34:54 AM
Would you like photos of blue version of the fairy light and the matching items to "Kings Panel" bowl for reference?
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome RD 430643, April 1904 – Precise registration details, please?
Post by: agincourt17 on November 28, 2013, 11:38:25 AM
Yes please, Margaret.

Fred.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Jim Sapp on November 28, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Yes, the fluted base is not intended to go with the Davidson shade.  The clear Clarke lamp cup with the swirl was actually designed for another fairy lamp from another company.  The more appropriate Clarke cup with the diamond pattern is a better match.

There are two blue variants of the Davidson design, one a dark blue and the other a very light blue.   There is also a seldom seen amber color.   I would post articles on these lamps but I can't get to my files right now.

Jim.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 28, 2013, 01:59:58 PM
Would that be this one?
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1138

If so, would you like it Margaret? I hold little hope of finding a top
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Jim Sapp on November 28, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
Yep, that is the better cup for the Davidson shade.

It would not be too difficult for you to find a Clarke shade on eBay.  Some of the more common lamps go pretty reasonably.

Thanks for the offer, but after collecting fairy lamps for over 40 years, I have plenty of spare cups.  I would rather it go to someone who really needs it.

Jim.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 28, 2013, 02:58:32 PM
I was asking Margaret not you Jim  ;) Any fairy lamp would have to be uranium for my collection and they don't pop up too often in the UK (I have also become allergic to ebay these days)
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Keencollector on November 28, 2013, 09:35:08 PM
Thanks for your generous offer Lustrousstone.  It would certainly fit with the primrose Davidson dome.  Sorry for the delay in answering your post - time difference.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 28, 2013, 10:10:12 PM
Email me with your address  ;D
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Keencollector on November 29, 2013, 03:20:22 AM
Examples of Kings Panel design, the base dish shown with fairy light.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Keencollector on November 29, 2013, 03:23:09 AM
Example of Davidson blue pearline fairy light Rd.130643.
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: mrvaselineglass on November 30, 2013, 05:00:43 AM
The correct base for this is the clear Clark Fairy Lamp base that came with the piece.  Clark contracted with Davidson (and a lot of other manufacturers) to make the tops for his fairy lamp base.  From an old Fairy Lamp newsletter that was sent to me by someone:

Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Jim Sapp on November 30, 2013, 12:45:34 PM
It is interesting that the lamp did not have a Clarke model number.  It was simply identified in the ad as "Clarke Pearline".  However, the same shade and cup was advertised on a plush base as Clarke model 321.  Jim
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Jim Sapp on November 30, 2013, 12:53:44 PM
I mentioned earlier that there were two shades of blue Pearline.  The following link will take you to an article that shows both shades of blue side by side. 

http://www.fairy-lamp.com/Fairylamp/ArticleDavidsonPearline.html (http://www.fairy-lamp.com/Fairylamp/ArticleDavidsonPearline.html)
Title: Re: Fairy lamp dome Davidson RD 130643, 13 August 1889
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 30, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Pearline, both blue and primrose, was often quite variable in shade, but I think that's true of many restruck glass items