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Title: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Antwerp1954 on December 04, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
This was sold to me as Bohemian. It's very light, but no luminescence under UV. Pontil mak to base, applied neck. The engraving on the larger faces reminds me of a tulip and that on the other two looks like lily of the valley. Good wear to the base which is quite flat.

Is it Dutch? A gin bottle? Date?

Any help or ideas gratefully received.
Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Ivo on December 04, 2013, 12:22:31 PM
Could be Dutch but is more likely Swedish or Danish. The bottle is made in the so-called half=post technique, whereby an initial glass blob was coated a second time so there would be sufficient material to blow into a large bottle. This technique was extensively used in Denmark and Sweden. A similar bottle is in the 1853 Holmegaard catalogue as "Cantineflaske" - it came in 4 sizes, with or without stopper.

The decoration is tulips, 100% tulips.
Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Antwerp1954 on December 04, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
Ivo

Many thanks for the informatie reply.

Date?
Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Ivo on December 04, 2013, 01:01:38 PM
... A similar bottle is in the 1853 Holmegaard catalogue ...
Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Paul S. on December 04, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
hi Stuart  -  may we see a shot of the side of the bottle please - thanks :)  -  the sides may well show lily of the valley  -  this flower motif was a very common form decoration, in both wheel engraving and enamel, during much of the C19  -  it's symbolic, and has a very long history in many cultures.

Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Antwerp1954 on December 04, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Photo as requested
Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 04, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Showing lily-of-the-valley, just as Paul suspected! :)
I find the term "on the post" to be a bit of a difficult and misleading one. It often leads folk to think that the neck was applied to an already-blown piece, which is not what happens at all, it is a second casing which does not fully cover the first.
I refer to these as being "partially cased".

Perhaps not quite such a suitable term for something of this age.  ;)
Title: Re: Rectangular bottle
Post by: Ivo on December 04, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
http://www.bottlebooks.com/germanhalfpost/german_half_post_method.htm