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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: brucebanner on December 13, 2013, 07:00:04 PM
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Hello can anyone help me put a name to this vase i'm thinking Stevens and Williams and a date of 1890 but i might be way off regards Chris.
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Hi,nice pics, is the amber trailing just decorative on the sides? i.e. not an animal/lizard of any sort?
Just interested to know but my first thought would be Harrach and Bohemian for your vase :)
m
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Ok thanks for that, no, there is no animal trailing to the sides, do you think the date is right? I'll have a look into this harrach glass, it's unbelievable just how much coloured glass is linked to bohemia, my local glass museum is full of it and most of it is British.
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How fabulous to have a local glass museum - which one are you near if you don't mind divulging ... I wish I lived nearer the V&A or Broadfield House - either would do nicely ;D
Well I could be wrong and it might not be Bohemian. The cut and bevelled and polished rim with the mold blown base, as well as the colour of the glass and the amber trailing with the wishbone trailing at the bottom makes me think it's a possible.
Hopefully someone else will be along soon who might have a definite for you :)
Here's one just for you to compare, with a trailed rim and different decor/shape but similar colours including that blue I think
http://www.madforglass.es/Harrach/Harrach977b.html
m
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Perhaps it's the wishbone trailing, but it did immediately remind me a bit of Lustrousstone's "Ugly beast" cornucopia, which somebody suggested might be Harrach. I thought the shade of amber (very greeny) was the same too; and the unusual way the trailing is done... :)
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Most such glass found in the USA is more likely to be Bohemian than British. Most IDs are wishful thinking.
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The OP is in the UK. ;)
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Broadfield house is ten minutes from where i live, on the ground floor is a breathtaking room full of coloured cameo glass, it's a privilege to see it.
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yes, it's amazing :)
The V&A likewise for a range of glass from many countries. I wish I lived a stone's throw. Such great inspiration and research available. Broadfield House have lots of books! worth going and asking if they have the recent Harrach book and having a look through.
m
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:-[
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;D
Friday night just before Christmas - I'd assumed US as well for a mo.
m
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My local also but despite only being three miles away,in a straight line,it takes at least 1.5 hours to get there and three buses ! :o :o ::) ;D ;D
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:o 3 miles in our county takes precisely 6 minutes ..... unless one of the farmers is moving cows of course, then it could be a while ;D
m
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3 miles is an easy stroll - as long as it's not uphill. :)
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3 miles was easy,once,not now,flat feet and neck problems, ::) what's a cow? ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Remember Ermintrude?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-CORGI-ERMINTRUDE-THE-COW-FIGURE-MAGIC-ROUNDABOUT-/290979875891
Sorry, we're getting off topic!
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More of a 'Dylan' than an Ermintrude !
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I had suspected as much, dear heart. ;)
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How come you know me so well ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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8) 8) 8)
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just to add to this thread, I thought the style, finish and colours in my vase were similar although reversed to the OP.
I had always had this down as Bohemian and possibly Harrach too although trawling my books and web has never found a comparable one
any thoughts?
Mel
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I think so too. I'll try and get a look through my books later and see if there is a shape match there for either of them.
m
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thanks m :)
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so what about Sèvres then?
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Ivo, I had thought of Sevres as well - but I remember looking up your vase and finding absolutely nothing on it. Nothing anywhere. And I think the colours of your vase would lean more to French but the colours of this could be either do you think?
Also that rim? cut and bevelled and polished - would that fit with a Sevres piece - I've seen the wide straight sided bowls that I think have that rim, so maybe it would?
m
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Another relative maybe,an old one this,Boulton And Mills was suggested and then rejected if I remember right, ::) ;D
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I have two clear glass examples of very similar vases and both are Stourbridge pieces. If i had picked these two vases you have posted in local charity shops car boots or flea market's i would sell these on as Stourbridge pieces, thats the problem there is not much info on this type of glass, but this begs the question, why do these pieces turn up so often around where i live, why on earth would they be importing glass into one of the most prolific glass making area's in the world where millions of tons of the stuff was being exported every year? lovely vases by the way.
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Glass seems to travel well,this one I got from near W'ton but one I picked up from Lye recently,which looked Bohemian turned out to be American so.....? ;D ;D
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I'm probably totally wrong but its just that cut and polished rim doesn't sit right with me for being English. I've always felt this and made a point of looking at every vase in the Broadfield House when I was there last year and couldn't spot one piece with a cut and polished rim. However Glassobsessed (John) posted a pretty vase a few months ago with that type of rim and Mervyn Gulliver iirc told him it was English and I think by Stevens and Williams??? I was surprised.
So yes, I'm probably totally wrong ;D
m
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I know, look at these two, the crazy looking vase is by Stevens and williams dated 1886 registration number rd55693, the other was sold to me also as a Stevens and Williams small world is it not.
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does the crazy looking vase have a firepolished rim or a cut and polished flat rim though?
If it has a cut and polished rim I'm admittedly surprised. If it doesn't I'm not as that base is very similar to some I've seen on cased pink thorn type vases I think (they are particularly hideous and remind me of Blacmange ;D) that I've seen id'd as Stevens and williams.
m
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It's fire polished not cut and admittedly it's not the prettiest vase i own, the guy that made it must have been on something for sure.
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The vase m mentioned with cut and polished rim was made by Stuart, here it is: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,46838.0.html
John
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oh thanks John :) could not find it or remember any key words.
m