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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Fuhrman Glass on December 18, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
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Can anyone help me with and I.D. on these small copper wheel engraved wine glasses. 4 3/4" tall X 2 1/8" dia.
These are out of my expertise and have come down thru the family. How Old? made by whom or where?
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here's another photo
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and another
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Hi FG,i'm afraid you'll have to wait for someone with more knowledge than me to come along,but can i ask what type of pontil they have.
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I'll hazard a possibility...20s Hawkes, fairly straightforward copper wheel engraving (a few examples below). Also not uncommon if they originally came as a set of 8 to 12 that only one in the set would be marked Hawkes.
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photo showing pontil. appears to be concave polished pontil. they are handblown without a mold as there is a small difference in size between them, including height and diameter and diameter of stem. Tops are very thin about 1/16" thick or less.
Thanks for the info on Hawkes.
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hi - I was interested to know quite why Ken was so quick to suggest Hawkes. :) - perhaps the op is in the States, which would explain that response.
Copper wheel engraving was a commonplace decoration produced in most countries for many decades - but what strikes me as unusual is the size of of the depression - I'd say unusually large and symmetrical for such small glasses - and this feaure might help to indicate some particular origin. :)
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only 2 have that ground and polished puntie mark, the other one has not been ground and has a very minute tit where it was attached and possibly fired polished
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Ahh,two with polished pontils and one with a Dennis Wise,that's unusual??
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hi - I was interested to know quite why Ken was so quick to suggest Hawkes. :) - perhaps the op is in the States, which would explain that response.
Copper wheel engraving was a commonplace decoration produced in most countries for many decades - but what strikes me as unusual is the size of of the depression - I'd say unusually large and symmetrical for such small glasses - and this feaure might help to indicate some particular origin. :)
Yes Paul it was (1) OP is from the U.S. (2) Hawkes cut/engraved stemware with this type of engraving, far more so than anyone else to the best of my knowledge since Hawkes frequently bought blanks from other Corning glassworks so the supply was almost endless & based on these factors I suggested Hawkes as a possibility even though granted others also did this type of work. Also in the very early 1900s Hawkes introduced a line of engraved glassware called "Gravic". It consisted of naturalistic designs, stone-wheel engraved, and usually left in a matte finish which is what the OP's exhibited so I thought it was worth a shot.
Actually Hawkes still exists today as "Crystal Traditions" (Tiffin, Ohio) who purchased the Hawkes name & logo in 1989 from the Tiffin Glass Co. (even though Tiffin closed in 1983) Tiffin aquired Hawkes in 1964 & from 64 to 80 Hawkes cutting was used on Tiffin blanks.
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Hi Ken - appreciate the clarification - thanks :)
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Thanks for the info, Didn't realize that Crystal Traditions had bought the Hawkes name. I know a guy that works at Crystal traditions. They now have just one engraver that they hired from England. and do very limited work.
The 3 pieces I have may have been blanks that were made in 2 different factories as Hawkes was buying blanks wherever they could get them. That would explain the variations.
The engraving is superb.
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although not quite as good as owning a piece of Hawkes cut or engraved glass, the next best thing can be had by looking through Jane Spillman's book 'THE AMERICAN CUT GLASS INDUSTRY - T. G. Hawkes and his Competitors'. Not particularly cheap as it's one of the Antique Collectors' Club books, but if you're into American cut/engraved glass from the ABP period, it's a real must - glass to die for. :)
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Crystal Traditions URL is below & under their history section you will find they still cut/engrave glass signed Hawkes:
http://www.crystaltraditions.com/history.html