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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Jeffingtons on December 20, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
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Talked myself into this being mdina in the shop - the feel of the glass, the flat ground base, the amethyst and yellow colour combination, the tapering neck. Talked myself out of it on the way home and have been flipping between yes and know ever since. I just don't know enough about mdina. Can anybody help?
height approx 6", weight approx 750g
Thanks
PS please excuse the photo quality, phone on it's last legs. Hopefully you can see enough to assess
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Don't think it is,looks a bit eastern to me, :o ;D ;D
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The style and wonkiness would also suggest Mdina 10/10 for that, Jeffingtons - but the colours are all wrong, I'm afraid, and the shape isn't quite right either. :'(
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Keith
I wondered if it might be a TK Maxx special but it doesn't have the horrible oily feel that their chinese imports have. It's also heavy for it's size in the way that most eastern glass I've handled isn't. Finally, the base is finished very well. It's mainly the base that made me think mdina, because of the regularity and finish.
Chopin Liszt
I have an amethyst and yellow mdina vase. Completely different style - all amethyst with splashes of yellow (and a surface silver lustering I believe from the yellow escaped during blowing), but same colours all the same. Pattern and shape I didn't think were right.
I was leaning away from mdina myself as I can't find similar designs online , but wondering if it might be a bit of studio glass.
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PS. I realise I have been utterly rude and didn't say thanks to both for your input, which has helped me make up my mind. Consider yourself thanked profusely and my wrists slapped
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Perhaps Mtarfa, more their colours, tricky to tell with this set of photos.
John
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Saw the same vase in a charity shop on Thursday, i picked it up and looked at the base and felt the weight and texture and thought modern glass near new and put it down, i'm sure this will not help at all but i've got thousands of pieces of glass and this was my initial impression as one post stated tk maxx but i might be wrong.
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John, my knowledge of mtarfa is worse than my mdina knowledge but I ruled it out even quicker than mdina. I must get the proper camera out.
Bruce, Shirley?
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And also, I've done it again. Thanks guys for your knowledge.
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;D You are most welcome, Jeffingtons - my sincere apologies for not expanding a bit on what I said. :-[
It was getting towards "tine to put the pc off" when your post appeared, but I had to peek!
The colours look far too "flat" for Mdina - they look as if they've been applied to the surface - not worked in in any substantial quantities. The yellow is wrong for it to have been produced by silver salts - and there isn't the variation in shading.
But I don't know what it is. The shape, with the slightly tapered base, is more Mtarfa than Mdina, but I do think we can rule Maltese out.
Have you ever noticed an acetic acidy smell from the glass which feels greasy? That's another giveaway.
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It doesn't look Chinese to me either though or Polish
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No, it doesn't. I agree with you on that, absolutely.
It's slightly crudely made - (which is not inconsistent with early Maltese or other early studio glass), but it's not "wrong" in the way that Far Eastern glass tends to be, when not made by experienced folk.
Polish glasss is always well finished, it's not the standard I'd expect from Poland.
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Shows what I know ! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Proper camera has been dragged out. Half decent photos have been taken. Let's see what difference it makes.
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You just don't spend enough time in TKMaxx, studying it, Keith. You must have more interesting places to be! ;)
I reckon this is studio glass. I just haven't a clue which studio. ;D
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I'm inclined to agree Sue. Cheers
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Just shoving another idea into the mix, could it be Guernsey?
If it was Malta Decorative Glass colours, I might even be suggesting MDG.
Or Alum Bay?
There is something a bit Harris-glass-dynasty-ishness about the shape... particularly that "lumpy" flange on the attenuated neck.
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I had a brief look at Alum bay. Again, it's not glass I know much about as Studio's not my area of collecting (I have a small group of mdina, I've gathered by accident). Didn't see anything I could say was like enough to be a match but that doesn't mean it isn't. Will have a nosy at Guernsey next.
Thanks again
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This vase has more than a few similarities and comes with a Mtarfa paper label:
current Ebay listing (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Isle-of-Wight-Mdina-interest-Small-Swirl-Decorated-Mtarfa-Art-Glass-Bottle-Vase-/400687291681?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item5d4ad2dd21)
John
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Mtarfa is my first instinct, although there is also Phoenician that's quite similar and in the same stable.