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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: brucebanner on December 20, 2013, 11:37:52 PM
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Hello again can anyone help me id this vase, it's hand blown with a fern pattern some how produced inside the glass very heavy about 2.5kg and heavy wear to the base regards Chris. 8 inches in height 4 3/4 inches across the rim.
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It looks as if it was made by flashing a blank, cutting/etching it, then recasing and reblowing a little bit.
However, I am clueless as to it's origins, I've not seen any studio glass that looks anything like this before.
I'm even wondering if it might be older than studio glass, and a frigger of some sort. ???
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That explains how it was made, looking at it from what you have said it makes sense, i did think it was quite old, there are plenty of lumps of white grit in it and i though the age wear might be to it's weight, thus making it a 60's piece, well perhaps it will remain a mystery, thanks for your help.
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It's a bit of an oddity.
I can't quite get to grips with what looks like reasonably deco-style etching on a ruby flashed bit of glass, then recased in clear metal so full of bubbles...
The style of etching and flashing suggests pre-studio glass - the bubbles in the outer casing suggest newer.
The frit (what you call grit), while often a feature of older glass (before methods and recipes got better) doesn't neccessarily mean it's old. In the early days at Mdina, they had to import cullet, and could only get hold of very poor quality stuff, so it is often full of frit and a poor colour of clear (very yellowy-greeny).
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My first impression (for what it is worth) was older than the beginnings of the Studio Movement.
John
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I really think so too, John.
(Good to have your support for this notion, though!)
Chris (that is your given name - if it's ok to use it? I could call you Hulk if you like!)
if you look at the very ends of the ferny leafy bits, and along some of the swag cuts, you'll see bubbles that have formed as a result of the cut being there, on top of the general bubbles.
I believe that is evidence for the flashing-cutting-recasing-reblowing-a-tiny-bit method of making it.
Perhaps it's an embryonic early attempt at a graal/ariel technique! ;) (before they were invented)
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I like it,it's not a nailsea pink is it...i'll just get me coat then.
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You've only just got here, Bat20 :o - do stay and join in!
Is the red colour likely to have come from gold? Not my sort of area of knowledge at all - I'm useless at old stuff. :-[
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Looks like graal to me, but I don't know who or when. Bear in mind that the first graal pieces were made at Orrefors in 1916. It would surprise me if this piece pre-dated them.
;-)
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I didn't know that, Adam, thanks for the info. :-*
I shall bear it in mind from now on.
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In the 70's Labino played around with a glass formula that he got from Corning that would change color after it was made when exposed to the right type of light. you would put a mask on the glass and expose it and where the mask was it would remain clear and the exposed places would turn a reddish purple. There were several others that played around with this formula about that same time and there are some samples of it in the Corning Museum.
I don't think is one of those pieces though and if it was blown, cut and then encased as a graal piece, it should show some tiny bubbles that were trapped where the cutting was done. It's difficult to do graal and not get at least a tiny bubble somewhere.
It may have also been done using a technique called an "aussie rollup" where the decoration is fused on a flat sheet then heated in an oven and picked up on a hot gather and formed around it. Then it is gathered over in clear and blown out to whatever shape you desire. I think that technique has only been used for about 20 years though. It supposedly originated in Australia, hence it is called an aussie rollup.
Or it may be totally something else. but after reading the posts again, the tiny bubbles strongly suggest an early graal piece.
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Very interesting and another new one to me,am i right in thinking this would take alot of work and time to do?talk about humble ,i would certainly put my X on something like that.
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Fuhrman Glass said:
... if it was blown, cut and then encased as a graal piece, it should show some tiny bubbles that were trapped where the cutting was done.
Bruce's fourth photo shows a tiny bubble at the end of each part of the cutting for each of the leaf patterns.
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Is it at all possible to tell if the inner clear casing is as full of extraneous bubbles as the outer?
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Half of the vase appears full of bubbles one side seems reasonably clear, i'll put some more picks on, i'd rather be called Chris than Bruce that's part of my email address i'm not sure why i have used it as my member name to be honest.
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more pics
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I love the leaf effect on that vase. Really pretty. It doesn't show so much in the photos from the side but your new pics show it really well.
m
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The style of the leaves reminds me of some of the early graal pieces made by David Kaplan and Annica Sandstrom at Lindean Mill but I don't think it is theirs. You could ask them if they can shed any light on it.