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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: pugster on January 18, 2014, 10:27:13 AM
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yet another i need help with tho i think i might have found another very similar on the owners site that is labelled as
'Mandruzzato, based on a design by Flavio Poli for Seguso Vetri d'Arte.'
..well its as close as i can find :) , no I.D marks i can see vase measures just over 7" at its highest point and is clear and purple in colour , it glows faintly green under a blacklight.
as before many thanks for any help with I.D that people can provide, if anyone wants any more photos from different angles let me i know - at the moment i feel as tho im swamping the board asking for help :-[
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I think it is a little bit plain (and i say this in the nicest way) for Mandruzatto....
Scrowl down on the link...
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/murano_glass/other_glass/muranosommerso_home.htm
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You say it is purple, but your image shows a grey blue. I think it is neodynium glass. It should be grey blue in daylight (as in your pic) but under artificial lights it will be a pale rosy lilac.
Sorry, I can't help with anything Murano-ish. I know Mandruzatto as having a rough texture on the outside of some sommerso bits, and of other sommerso bits which have a lot of angular cutting, but that's it.
I've just looked again, and now realise you refer to the colour inside! (doh. :-[ )
but the grey-blue shade on the outer casing still looks as if it could be neodynium.
A pale green "glow" under UV light indicates magnesium being used as a decolourant in the metal.
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I think it is a little bit plain (and i say this in the nicest way) for Mandruzatto....
Scrowl down on the link...
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/murano_glass/other_glass/muranosommerso_home.htm
lol i fully understand what you are saying - tho to me some of the pieces in the link you provided look even plainer... tho im not an expert ;) , im just learning and buy pieces i like the look of , this piece was in a group of 5 i bought at auction which was labeled as 'venetian glass' tho as im now learning theres lots of fakes around so dont worry about being polite ;D
i'll admit im finding it very hard to identify pieces , chopin-liszt you are correct and the outer glass does have a grey/blue tint to it (i thought this was a reflection from the purple)and its the inside thats purple (the purple continues round through the handle) , the lower inside of the hoop where you pick it up is very rough 'cast'
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Sorry if i was not very clear...but i never said it was Mandruzatto... ;)
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I'm a bit concerned now, when you say the insidey bit of the handle is "rough".
This could merely be an indication of poorer quality, or, and I can't tell from the image, a hole has been produced in the body of the piece to create a handle.
Making a hole in the body of an already blown piece is a very difficult and complicated thing to achieve, and will result in a "seam" on the inside of the handle, where the hot glass has been cut and rejoined.
Does the colour of the casing change to a rosy lilac under artificial lighting?
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ok i went outside to try and get some better pics in natural light , the rough 'seam' is on the inside edge (i hope you can see in the photo) and not on the handle- there are 2 small dots or depressions on either side of the bottom part of the seam , yes the vase is hollow (the purple bit is the hollow part , altho you cant see it as it very thin the purple continues round the handle in a thin line and also stretches up through the top 'finger' , to my eye the clear part has a blue tinge to it (my eyes are not the best)
hope the photos give a better idea of what im trying to say about the seam/rough bit in the first photo.
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I can see it perfectly, thank-you so much. :)
A hole has been cut into the hot metal to create the handle - so it is a highly complex and skilled thing that has been achieved, despite what you describe as "roughness" - that is to be expected. It's not an indication of poor quality, but of highly skilled workmanship.
But I still can't help with Mandruzatto or not.
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As Sue says the quality looks fine, the vase reminds me of this one a bit which is no where near as flamboyant: https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/GlassFromMurano#5906731208633708466
Finding the maker for your vase is not easy, so many furnaces and relatively short lived companies on Murano.
John
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this is the link to what it reminded me of, second one down that is listed as 'attributed to Mandruzzato, based on a design by Flavio Poli for Seguso Vetri d'Arte. '
tho mine looks like they forgot to bend the top part over ;D
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/murano_glass/mandruzzato_glass/mandruzzato_home.htm