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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: pugster on January 19, 2014, 09:04:27 AM
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any help with an I.D on this vase is much appreciated , it has no signature and is a large heavy piece measuring 9.5" tall and 9" accross the top at it widest point - the base is ground completely flat .
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Hiya, and sorry I can't help with your vase, I'd just like to ask you, pretty please would you try to make your titles describe the item?
Sometimes ids can take a long time, many folk here hept a good mental record of unidentified pieces, and if they come across an id, need to come back and be able to find the original thread to pass on the news.
"help with id for vase" doesn't assist much in tracking it down - especially if there are 4,000 threads all with the same title.
Don't worry about it ;) - nearly everybody does it at first. :)
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will try and improve my titles sue (i presume this is your name as its in your sig) , many thanks for the help you have provided so far with my items .
the trouble is i dont know the correct term for say the top of the vase - i would say 'petal' but this probably is not the correct term , im getting lost looking at so much glass as i try and find my items before i ask for help, is there anywhere on this site that gives the correct names for the way items look ?
i.e would this vase have a flared petal top ?
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My name is Sue, How do you do? ;)
We are very used to imaginative descriptions, :D but I think we might use the word lobes rather than petals. Lobes gives an idea of substantialness, while petals sound delicate.
Loads of us find we use food to describe glass for the descriptions of colour and texture... jelly, custard, etc.
An indication of what sort of glass - pressed, moulded, blown, old, new, helps a lot.
Don't worry about it - we were all new to it once. I've learned almost all I know from the good folk here, either directly on the gmb, or because we've become good friends off board and get together in reality (not often enough) to go hunting and blethering glass.
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Hi - I'm wondering if your large vase is Chalet Glass of Canada - a lot of their stuff is large with lumpy bits :)
Alastair
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im starting to wonder if this is of eastern european origin , if anyone has a copy of Hi Sklo Lo Sklo: Czech Glass Design From Masterpiece to Mass-Produced they can flick thru i would be grafeful , everywhere ive looked its out of print >:( , may have to try local library.
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It doesn't appear, to my uneducated eye in this sort of matter, to be Czech. It doesn't have quite the refinement of design I' have come to expect from Czech glass. I'd be looking more to Romania, or perhaps Japan.
It has "double" lobes, it's not unadventurous. :)
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ha, many thanks sue , i'll start looking at those 2 areas ;)
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There is a dearth of information about Romanian glass, particularly slightly older than contemprorary, but Kane here is working away on Japanese glass. :)
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,38.0.html
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or Yugoslavian - sure that something has been on recently where I wondered if Yugoslavian glass might be a contender for a number of unexplained pieces.
Seeing a picture of the base is important. One person's idea of 'polished flat' might be another person's idea of ground flat but not totally polished shiny - or sometimes inbetween - either way, seeing the base is important. It might also show whether the edges of the base rim are bevelled or not. That can help id sometimes as well :)
m
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i guess the proper term would be 'ground flat' rather than polished - ive only recently started collecting glass tho ive been collecting wristwatches and i'ding /valuing them for people for almost 16 yrs on and off - trying to i'd glass is proving 'challenging' to say the least :P , as always i am grateful to anyone that provides information either regarding the pieces or the correct use of terminology when wording conversations regarding pieces.
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ah, is it slightly matt, rather than shiny and see through and highly polished?
That can make a difference as well :) I'd say if it has a slightly matt finish then it's possible it could be a Chinese piece perhaps?
It doesn't look as though the edges are bevelled as the base hits the rim either.
Thanks for posting more pics.
m
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yes the piece itself is highly polished and a beautiful blue with trapped air bubbles thruout ,the base is what i would call a beadblasted finish (tho this probably just comes from the action of grinding) and the edges are rounded (like is has been ground only enough that it sits flat rather than the whole base ) -you cant see it in the photos but there is indication of an oval sticker on the base -but what it said is any ones guess :D
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There is a range of easily identifiable Romanian glass of good quality, looks to be "retro" in design, by an unknown Romanian maker. The bases of these pieces are all roughly ground.
Then there is the unknown Romanian glass that gets confused with Monart, and is of a similar age, I believe. I've had a bit but I can't remember what it's base looks like. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be roughly ground. My brother has it, I'll ask him.
It's not just Chinese glass that has roughly ground bottoms. If only it were that easy! ::)
I hope you'll enjoy your foray into glass, Pugster. It's quite addictive. ;D