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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Pip on May 15, 2006, 01:12:58 PM
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Sorry for anyone who's already seen this posted on the Murano board but I've been told it's probably NOT Murano (opinion so far seems to be Scandi). It's very heavy and has a lot of base wear and is shaped a little like a beak vase with coloured bands of glass (green, amber and blue) encased thickly in clear and is unsigned (obviously!). Thats the best I can do to describe it - a couple of photos are below, any ideas? TIA...
http://tinypic.com/zn7hp1.jpg
http://tinypic.com/znam2d.jpg
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Something about the colours and treatment reminds me of what is sold in Australia as Rikaro Crystal (which is made in the Czech republic, I think). If so, it's pretty much brand new. You see a lot of it on eBay these days.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=989&item=7408510543
and here's some importer's 2006 catalogue of Rikaro
http://rikaro.com.au/Hot%20shaped%20%20vases%20&%20bowls/files/index.htm
Just an idea. What does everyone else think?
Cathy
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Hi Cathy,
The 4th, 5th and 6th rows down on the importers page gives some cause for concern. Collectors of Czechoslovakian glass, particularly 1945-1990 need to be aware of these vases. I have an idea, that I recently saw one of these attributed to Jelinek, with a price to fit that attribution.
Regards,
Marcus
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HI Marcus,
It's good to hear from you! Would it be worth trying to contact the importer to try to find out the name of the company that makes this Rikaro crystal? It first started on eBay a few years back, firstly unattributed or "murano", but these days is always called Rikaro - but it must be an import name because I can't find any company website.
Cheers
Cathy
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Thanks for your reply Cathy. My vase however is most definitely not modern, it has legitimate looking base and surface wear and was literally encrusted with dirt when I first got it. Incidentally, I didn't buy it from eBay but was in a box of mixed vases dating from around the 1970's and from an auction house. The items on the page you show although very interesting (thank you for that) don't bear any resemblance to my vase - so I guess the answer here is that no-one knows what this is!!! I'm going to investigate further and I'll post back here if I find out anything.
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so I guess the answer here is that no-one knows what this is!!! I'm going to investigate further and I'll post back here if I find out anything.
Really you need Bill Geary to have a look so you can rule out Scandinavian companies like Kosta for example.
If he doesn't see this, you could put a note on the Cafe for his attention...might be a plan. :)
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Marcus,
Why not put a page on your site about look-alikes being made today?
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Really you need Bill Geary to have a look so you can rule out Scandinavian companies like Kosta for example.
If he doesn't see this, you could put a note on the Cafe for his attention...might be a plan. :)
Thanks Max but since I don't know Bill and we haven't been 'introduced' so to speak, I'm wondering if it might seem abit impertinent to post a message for his attention - is it OK to do that? I'm anxious not to put my size 7 plates in it again! :oops:
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I'm sure Bill wouldn't mind you adding his name to a query on the Cafe board. No-one else has been able to help and you do need to rule out some Scandi companies, and Bill is the knowledgable one on Kosta and Orrefors to name a couple of companies.
...add that Max advised you to do it...then you'd be covered. :wink: :P
PS: His book is: 'Scandinavian Glass, Creative Energies' by Schiffer ISBN 0 7643 1709 1 :D
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Hi Pip,
My usual candidate, if Czech, for this type of glass, is to look through the products here:
http://www.sklarna-chribska.com/products.php
Regards,
Marcus
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Marcus,
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Hi Frank,
I spotted that, but thought this creaking pile of soft and hardware was the problem....sorry.
Regards,
Marcus
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Thanks Max - on your rec I'll post a message FAO Bill Geary in the cafe and thanks Marcus - I'll do some web research tomorrow on Sklarna-Chribska and see what comes up. Cheers again everyone :-)
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Cathy
I wrote to Rikaro some months ago and they confirmed that their glass comes from Czech Republic.
I know know that at last two of the items shown in the Rikaro catalogue are definately by Chribska, from labeled examples. I suspect that much, if not all the rest shown there are too.
Pip
I have doubts about your vase being Chribska. It shows non of the hot worked wavy form which seems to be their trademark.
It could be another Czech company or even German. Yes the Germans have made sommerso style items too.
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Pip
I have doubts about your vase being Chribska. It shows non of the hot worked wavy form which seems to be their trademark.
It could be another Czech company or even German. Yes the Germans have made sommerso style items too.
I agree with it not being Chribska - so you think it's might possibly be German :? I'll look at some German manufacturers now and see what I can find. Cheers.
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I really like the way the glass designer/master combined colors in this
form.
Unfortunately, I have not seen this glass vase in Sweden, or other
Scandinavian glass countries.
One of the standards in Sweden is for the glass to be signed. Since this
work is not signed, I would rule out Swedish glass.
Best
Bill Geary
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I really like the way the glass designer/master combined colors in this
form.
Unfortunately, I have not seen this glass vase in Sweden, or other
Scandinavian glass countries.
One of the standards in Sweden is for the glass to be signed. Since this
work is not signed, I would rule out Swedish glass.
Best
Bill Geary
Thanks for looking at this Bill - much appreciated! Well I'm able to rule out several makers/countries now - it's not Murano, from Sweden, probably not Scandi at all - possibly German or Czech - that's very helpful - thanks everyone for your input :D
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Pip, do you have the photos to repost? Ta ;D