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Title: vintage amethyst glass identification if possible please
Post by: saorsa on January 25, 2014, 07:27:31 AM
good morning all
I have a couple of bits of glass that I am wondering if anyone can identify
the glass "Rummer" with the applied clear foot shows signs of wear , there are no cracks but the mark in picture 2 is where the glass has been pulled and formed .   5.125 inches tall
heavy piece with glass approx 4 mm thick

the other piece appears to be a pouring bowl with spouts at either end, again pulled at the top to form a rim 3.5 inches tall

pontil very reminiscent  of whitefriars

I will try and uploaded them with yobunny once I get my password sorted out , meanwhile I have hosted them

http://img2.sellersourcebook.com/users/156049/am1.jpg
http://img2.sellersourcebook.com/users/156049/am4.jpg
http://img2.sellersourcebook.com/users/156049/am2.jpg
http://img2.sellersourcebook.com/users/156049/am3.jpg
http://img2.sellersourcebook.com/users/156049/am5.jpg
http://img2.sellersourcebook.com/users/156049/am6.jpg
Title: Re: vintage amethyst glass identification if possible please
Post by: Paul S. on January 25, 2014, 10:18:01 AM
hi  -  your 'pouring bowl with spouts' is a fairly standard shape of 'wine glass cooler/rinser'  -  these were included as an item of table ware, and would have been provided for each diner, in which the wine glass could be cleaned and kept cool ready for the next drink. 
Until about 1840/1850 ish, diners were provided with a single glass only for all of their drinks, so possibly the sediment or lees might have accumulated without this rinsing.             After this date, it seems that the custom of hving a different glass for successive drinks became the norm.
Their heyday was probably the late C18 and C19, although earlier rinsers seem to have been in clear glass and had only one lip, and these coloured ones probably date more to roughly the first third of the C19.              Having said all that, like most things copies have been made in the C20, so wise to look at the wear, weight, thickness etc. - I'd have thought this one was right, but the screen is not always reliable.

Rinsers might have been a substitute for a finger bowl, as well, although finger bowls didn't have lips like this one, on which the stem of the wine glass rested (obviously the glass was inverted, and the bowl placed in the water).          This example is probably a C19 piece - according to the books the earlier ones had one lip only.

Sorry, but can't help with your other piece.
Title: Re: vintage amethyst glass identification if possible please
Post by: Anne on January 25, 2014, 06:03:55 PM
Please would you post one item per topic so we don't get confused and can move each topic to the proper place once ID'd? Many thanks.
Title: Re: vintage amethyst glass identification if possible please
Post by: saorsa on January 26, 2014, 12:01:57 PM
Thanks Paul , I will try and do that now Anne

Greg
Title: Re: vintage amethyst glass identification if possible please
Post by: Paul S. on January 26, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
a few more rinsers just to show the variation in size/colour and shape, also variation in manufacturing method  -  cut, pressed and blown. :)   
Title: Re: vintage amethyst glass identification if possible please
Post by: Antwerp1954 on January 26, 2014, 10:18:05 PM
That's a really nice selection of wine glass rinsers.