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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Simba on January 29, 2014, 04:04:49 PM
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Just got back from the Flea Market with my latest finds...this was the most unusual item I bought today, the seller thought it was a flower pot for a grave !! Don't know where he got that from, I think it has something to do with traffic bollards !? It is uranium and glows very brightly....what does any one else think?
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I think the seller may well have been correct. Massive displays of ornaments on graves are not common where I live, (Scotland), but my OH is from Eire, and we've been to the graveyard in his home town on many (sad) occassions.
There are several graves of travellers there, they are decorated and ornamented and full of sculptures and pots of flowers, and garlands of flowers - and cherubs and angels and sets of praying hands sticking up out from the ground, there are those plastic balls full of water and plastic flowers, there are ornamented bottles of holy water everywhere. You can tell a traveller's grave from all the others - they are decorated up like beacons, standing several feet above all the others, and all spread out too.
I have learned what a lot of very strange things are, from looking at those graves. :-\
This would be quite at home there, especially with a bouquet of (plastic) flowers in it.
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I just realised that the piece with a hole in it fits on the bottom like a plinth :) The grave idea sounds horrendous...it's far to nice for that ;)
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I've seen similarly shaped things in cast concrete on those ott graves. Honestly! They are really, really morbidly fascinating.
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Just worked out what it is..I (and the seller) had it upside down..it's a huge plinth!! ;D I must be having a senior moment!! I have pictured it with my Jobling jade bowl to give you some idea of scale...any ideas who might have made it ???
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It's not a plinth; I'm pretty sure you had it the right way round first time. You wouldn't need two bits for a plinth. Actual dimensions would help
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With the hole at the top it reminds me of my grandmother's umbrella stand!
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Christine - I am pretty sure it is a plinth I have seen similar ones in marble...... it measures 6.5 inches high - top is 7 inches square - base is 8 inches square - hole is 4.75 inches diameter. The wear on it is what made me turn it up the other way the wear it on the rim and you can see where the circular bit sat on top. :)
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Where the wear is is not always an accurate indicator of function, as it can indicate misuse (piano insulators as salts and ashtrays) or storage (upside down to keep the dust out). I think I'd need to see it in the flesh but I've never come across a two part plinth
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I think I understand now what the seller was trying to tell me about it being used on a grave ..... the flower urn would sit securely in the circular bit or maybe it was meant to hold an urn of ashes :D Whatever...I love it ...only wish the other one he had wasn't so damaged else I would have bought that one too!! Its definitely meant to have the round bit on top it has been ground down on three sides to make it level to fit, and there is no wear at all on the piece with the hole in. Makes sense to have it in two pieces you could have a range of hole sizes to fit different size urns or vases. on the same base. ;D
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A better image of it glowing...
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It wouldn't hold anything securely that way round. If it was going to be that way up it would have a hole top and bottom. It should probably have a vase to fit in the hole as well
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Think I may have solved the mystery of this piece thanks to another Glass collectors Site I belong too on Facebook...this picture is a opaline Urn and plinth in the Beauport Collection...the Sleeper-McCann House, Gloucester, MA....... ;D
Mod: Edited to add ...
The image of the glass urn at Beauport, the Sleeper-McCann House in Gloucester, MA (http://www.historicnewengland.org/historic-properties/homes/Beauport) is shared here with permission - as per confirmation to "Simba" form Martha Van Koevering, Beauport Site Manager.
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I think you also may have found who made is as that huge house has a large collection of Boston & Sandwich glass & they made opaline. Very well done & good for you. ;)
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Thank you for that info ..now I really am very happy ;D
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Simba I was at a Scott's Antique show yesterday & ran across an east coast dealer I know who has Sandwich & he thought your Plinth (we call them stands over here) was downright scarce & suggested you send a pic to the Sandwich museum & ask them for a Sandwich confirmation (he thought it was also when I brought it up on his laptop) & see if they would share more info on it although don't ask for any values just the historical info they probably have. He had an email for the person that usually handles these types of inquiries. Ken
dorothy.schofield AT sandwichglassmuseum.org Mod amendment to protect the email address: change AT to @ and close up the spaces
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Ken thanks very much for that information I will certainly follow it up and let you know how I get on.
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Permission for use of photo in Reply #12 now sorted and statement added to the post.
Thanks to Simba for getting the info.
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And our grateful thanks to the owner of the images for allowing us to see/use them, too. :)
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Yes a big thank you to Martha Van Koevering, who has given some more information on the Beauport plinth ....it is also in two pieces with a circular recess for the urn to sit in .....it is 20" high with all three pieces. The plinth alone is 8" high, 8" wide at the bottom, and 7.5" wide at the top. The recessed circle where the urn fits into the base is 4" wide.
Mine is slightly smaller....all very interesting...I would love to know what kind of vase sat on my plinth. :)
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Just been browsing the Beauport webpage and on the Photographic tour I can see on a painting of the Chapel Chamber there were two urns and plinths depicted !!