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Title: Ribbed Scroll Feet Creamer
Post by: petet63 on February 02, 2014, 07:00:02 PM
Some help on this would be good. It is 11.5cm in Height, Scroll Feet and nicely etched. I need more help with my Descriptive searches all the time now for some reason ?? All my searches come up with nada ! I think it is a Victorian piece. Help Appreciated. thanks
Title: Re: Ribbed Scroll Feet Creamer
Post by: Paul S. on February 02, 2014, 07:56:48 PM
sorry, can't help with an attribution, but just wanted to contribute a little to your piece. :)

The decoration is formed by wheel engraving, and not etching.            Believe feet and handles such as this are described as 'ribbed shell pattern' - which as you suggest was a Victorian design and seems to have been fairly common c. 1880's.          Feet not unlike the 'snail shaped foot', although the incised lines on this one (like the cockle shell ribbing) are what make the difference.             Rigbed shell design on the feet were a feature on some Stuart patterns c. 1885 - although I have no idea as to whether this might be from that factory.
Whether you piece is from the late C19, or not, may depend on evidence of wear and the other usual factors. :)

Mervyn Gulliver's book  -  'Victorian Decorative Glass - British Designs 1850 - 1914'  gives lots of examples of similar decorative forms.
Title: Re: Ribbed Scroll Feet Creamer
Post by: Paul S. on February 03, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
having looked again at the Gulliver book, the following might help to add more detail regarding the decoration - or equally create confusion: ;)

shell ribbing seems to have been popular - to the extent that three companies at least........... Hodgetts, Richardson & Pargeter - T/Webb and Boulton & Mills, all appear to have Registered designs during the second half of the C19, which incorporated this form of decoration on both feet and handles  - probably more commonly seen on feet.                        These small wheel cut stars are also typical of the period.

I'm not well up on these Victorian decorative styles, and there may also have been some plagiarism re shell ribbing, with the design having been used on the Continental as well.                As mentioned, Stuart did use shell ribbing decoration (mostly on feet??), but Gulliver doesn't provide information as to whether or not this feature was included on any of the pieces from this factory's Registered designs  -  perhaps others might know the answer to that one.

Looking purely at Gulliver's hand drawn copies of the National Archive illustrations, my personal thoughts were that the ribbing on this piece might just look more similar to B. & M. rather that the other two, which look to have more ribs in their designs.   

Title: Re: Ribbed Scroll Feet Creamer
Post by: petet63 on February 03, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
As always Paul you come up with the goods. Thank you for taking the time to reply with more than enough information . 
    By now I should know the difference between etch and cut  :-[ I would have described the feet as 'snail' but I obviously didn't look into it enough. I like the way the feet and handle feel and look. Wear is difficult to see as it is the ribbing that contacts the surface. Does not look to have been used much at all. This piece came with the 'rinser/celery ' I asked about., along with a collection of other Victorian glass. I will research B&M and the other info. Much appreciated Paul.