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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: incazzatonero on February 13, 2014, 09:54:12 PM

Title: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: incazzatonero on February 13, 2014, 09:54:12 PM
on ebay germany runs:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/221369327379?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

eBay-Artikelnummer:
221369327379

I am interested but
that weight drives my crazy!

If it is not James Heart, what is it ?????

Title: Re: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: Derek on February 14, 2014, 08:07:42 PM
Hi Incazzatonero

Why do you think it is NOT by Jim Hart?

The final picture on the ad shows Jim Harts signature cane -
the red heart surrounded by white all encased in cobalt blue.

Best regards

Derek
Title: Re: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: incazzatonero on February 14, 2014, 08:52:19 PM
The seller has told in the description that he had consulting jim hart and that he had said it was not a paperweight of him.
Title: Re: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: incazzatonero on February 14, 2014, 08:53:41 PM
And there is another reason:
I have never seen a weight of him like this!
Title: Re: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: LesBeatiques on February 15, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
Doesn't John Gooderham have a similar heart cane?
Title: Re: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: incazzatonero on February 15, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
Hallo Les Beatiques!

Yes of course, but as far as I know John Goderham from Canada used a heart cane always with his J cane.
Title: Re: Enigma Paperweight
Post by: Derek on February 15, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
Hi Incassatonero

This is very strange - when I looked at the link you provide to German Ebay
from the UK the pictures of the weight showed up but not the description so
I had no knowledge that the seller had contacted Jim Hart. Interestingly if I
go into Ebay UK and then search on the ebay number then the description does show !

LesBeatiques - RE John Gooderham - John made mainly buttons and sub miniature
paperweights I have quite a collection of these and although he does use a heart
cane I have not seen an example where it is surrounded by cobalt blue. The
complex canes shown in the E-bay weight are a bundle of the same cane re-pulled
and again I have not seen this type of complex cane in any of John Gooderhams
weights.  Also the heart cane was not his "trademark". For this he uses a "J" cane.
In the weight on E-bay the heart cane is VERY prominent in the base and is clearly
there as a signature.

If Jim says he did not make the weight,  then we have to accept this which leaves two
possibilities - either someone got hold of a piece of Jims heart cane and incorporated
into his own weight or there is someone else out there using the same heart cane.
I know that Jim at one stage used Murano canes in his weights and there are plenty
of images on the internet of both Murano and chinese weights with heart canes.

Best regards

Derek