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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Anne E.B. on May 18, 2006, 01:23:38 PM
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Following Peter's advice about this piece deserving its own topic - here it is :P Hopefully someone might have some ideas about it. I've had it for a couple of years now and have never seen anything like it. I know its not Whitefriars, but apart from that ..... :?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc760.jpg
Its a whopping 2kg, but only 7½" high - thick walled - hooped, rounded polished rim. The base is circular, but the walls then become oval shape.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc394.jpg
It has a polished pontil mark on the base, where there is age associated wear.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc392.jpg
The colour is beautiful - but hard to capture - kind of a blue/green as opposed to a yellow/green.
Any suggestions please? :P
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Leerdam?
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Thought I'd bump this one - in the hope that someone might recognise it.
Just discovered that it is U.V. reactive. This pic. is taken with just a keyring UV torch. It actually glows better than the pic. shows. May be this will help to narrow it down or eliminate some possibilities? :P
U.V.light http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/hoopedvase003.jpg
Daylight http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc740.jpg
TIA :D
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that reminds me of the Cambridge Glass "sweet potato" vase (pg 41 of Hazel Marie Weatherman's "Colored Glassware of the Depression Era" vol 2.............although the vase pictured there has a widening at the rim, which yours doesnt seem to have
They were used to grow sweet potato vines
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I WANT IT. Now I know its uranium. I'm sure you won't have room for it when you move :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Blue/turquoise uranium glass is very uncommon and if it glows that much with just a torch...
Change the title and add uranium, might attract Mr Vaseline's attention then.
I'll have a root in Barrie Skelcher when I get home
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I WANT IT. Now I know its uranium. I'm sure you won't have room for it when you move :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
GERROFF! :lol: :twisted:
Thanks very much Christine and Alma :P What a decadent way to grow sweet potato vines 8)
I only discovered it was uranium glass quite by accident, shining the torch in a darkened cupboard on something else and the vase happened to be next to it, waiting to be packed away! Doh! don't know why it took me so long.... may be I do...... :roll: Still trying to get hold of a decent UV bulb, so it will be interesting to see it under a better light source. I've got to admit its one of my favourite pieces.
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Not the same and different colour but see this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160019565833 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160019565833)
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That's a really nice looking vase Pat 8) . I'd love to know what is written on the base. Anyone know?
Apologies Cheri for incorrect name :oops:
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thanks for changing the title....i would not have looked otherwise. I don't know who made it, but have come across other things that were blue/turquois/teal in color that were uranium reactive. Sorry I can't be of more help. I am color blind and for the most part, only see yellow-green uranium. I don't see greeeeeeen depression, or teal, or burmese, or custard, or any of those other UV reactive glass. my eyes just sorta glaze over them. When it is yellow-green, though, my eyes get really serious!
Dave
aka
Mr. Vaseline Glass
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Barrie Skelcher had nothing useful on blue uranium glass either
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That's a really nice looking vase Pat 8) . I'd love to know what is written on the base. Anyone know?
Is it writing? Could be just marks made after the base was formed.
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Pat, that big vase you posted was described as optic ribbed - I thought optic ribbing was the fine ribbing on the inside only - like on Victorian vases.
Can these big curves be optic too?
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Well I wouldn't have called it optic rib, the seller obvioudly did. I thought someone may have seen that writing before and the vase was similar.
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Is there a standard way to describe these sort of lumpy curved vases?
Lumpy curved doesnt sound very commercially attractive... :lol:
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Is there a standard way to describe these sort of lumpy curved vases?
Lumpy curved doesnt sound very commercially attractive... :lol:
I call them "bulbous" for want of a better word :wink:
I sell a lot of the Dunbar and Jenkins and Louie glass pitchers with these concentric bulbous rings, and that is usually how I describe them
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Oh yes I agree, concentric bulbous rings sounds quite good!
It's like the old management speak games, you take any three of a list of geeky words and put them together to make new things to say in management meetings and impress the boss....
Perhaps we should have a game in the cafe, to list up all the possibilities we can them make our descriptions from for ebay!
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Similar shaped vases in Carnival Glass (found mainly in Australia) are known as "Melon Rib". The expression has been in use for many decades.
Glen
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Now that is strange - when I wrote Lumpy Curves I was tempted to put Melon in there, but didn't as I thought it wouldn't be right - that term is usually used for corves that are vertically divided when talking about porcelain (lots of Victorian/Edwardian cups are Low or High Melon shaped).
Interesting to know it can be used for horizontal divisions as well.
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I wonder if this is Dutch or Belgian. Ivo?
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Glen
I know the Fenton "Melon Rib" pattern, but there, the "bulbous bits" are vertical, not horizontal
here is a Fenton Melon Rib jug to illustrate
(http://images.goantiques.com/thumbnails/JRY2375/JRY2375tsFAGPMRPV2.jpg)
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Yes Cheri, now that I would definitely classify as traditional Melon shape.
I'm still not convinced about the horizontal curves.
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Hi,
I am pretty sure that these (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4085.0.html) are the vases that Glen is referring too.
Scroll down a little. :wink:
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I wonder if this is Dutch or Belgian. Ivo?
Not likely, no.
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Thanks Della. :D
A whole host of these kind of vases, in varying shapes and sizes, but all with the horizontal rolls, were on display on the Crown Crystal (Australia) stand at the 1938 Sydney Show. A photo of the stand is shown in "Carnival Glass of Australia".
They have been known for many years as Melon Rib vases. That's just the way it is.
I suspect the manufacturer was European. In fact I think I may be on the track of the maker right now - but as I am in the early stages of the research I'll have to hold on a little before I stick my neck out.
Glen
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Is there a standard way to describe these sort of lumpy curved vases?
Lumpy curved doesnt sound very commercially attractive... :lol:
When this shape is the other way up... i.e. wider at the base than the top... I always think of them as a beehive shape, so I'd be tempted to describe the original in this thread as an upside-down beehive I suppose.
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Glen have you any links to the melon vases? The tinypix link in the old thread is no longer viable.
thanks,
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I can still see the pic - so I have copied it here. It's small, but hopefully you can see the vases. Cathy's original pic on the thread is bigger.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Cathys_Melon_Rib_Vases.html
Glen
Mod: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4372
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I'm just bumping this, because I'd be interested to see what Jay has to say.
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I've still not be able to identify my gorgeous vase after all these years :'(. I've searched all the names suggested without success.
Just thought I'd bump it, to see if a new airing might just do the trick. ;D
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http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5592.msg46907.html#msg46907
I did a little bump to this old posting dating back to 2006 but it remains back there and not shown currently, so I've taken the liberty of bumping it here along with a link.
I searched all the suggestions that were given at the time and I've continued to try to I.D. it or to find a similar one over the years, but without success.
Hopefully airing it once more might do the trick :D
I can upload more images if necessary.
TIA :-*
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I certainly would love some images. Photobucket crashes my computer, I daren't peek.
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Will add some tomorrow in good light.
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More images. :)
Just a quick recap - 18cm high x 14.5cm at its widest at the top, very heavy weighing 1.98kg. and the walls are 1cm thick. Round at the bottom becoming oval towards top.
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I might venture Czech as a suggestion for where to start?
It's really rather fabulous Anne. I do hope you'll find a maker now. ;D
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Czech was my thought, but t I would be surprised if it wasn't said on the original post lol.
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We did not know much about Czech glass in 2006. :)
It was around, but wasn't selling well. Nobody knew what it was.
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I've merged the new topic with the original one and dragged them back into Glass from Unresolved for you Anne.
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Nice vase Anne. I wondered if Lutken or Copier may be possible? An unusual shade of green, the base finish suggests top quality. I wondered if the base wear may hide a small acid etch mark or engraved initials....
Robert (bOBA)
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Many thanks Anne ;)
Thanks for the suggestions Robert. I'll follow those up.
Of all the glass I have, this piece stands out for its sheer quality. I've asked several people over the years if they can see any marks/initials, but there is so much wear that if there are any, then they are obscured. I'll ask again. A new pair of eyes might see something... 8)