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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: BDG55 on March 11, 2014, 02:17:53 AM
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I just found something I find puzzling. While browsing on Molto Bella Glass, I found a Archimede Seguso Losanghe Vase of which I own two. Both of them have the glue residue of the original label. Or so I thought. The one at Molta Bella was purportedly, "packed away for decades and never displayed, only recently discovered". Looking at the pictures, I saw the same "glue residue" as on mine. This has me thinking that it might not be glue after all but actually etching. Has anyone seen this before? Any information would be appreciated.
http://www.moltabellaglass.com/items/614927/item614927store.html#item
Thank You
Rick
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If its glue residue, you should be able to scrape it off with your fingernail. If not, it may be that the glue has etched the glass. I don't think it's deliberate etching, as the marks are too inconsistent.
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The shape and wording is correct for Seguso, so you may prefer to leave it, even if it is only glue residue, as it is proof that the item is Seguso and did once bear an authentic label.... just a thought.
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I didn't mean scrape it all off, just a tiny sample...
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Yes Christine, I understood you meant to scratch only a small area. I did, and it doesn't come off. Something I did notice, is when I feel it with my nail, I can actually feel the mark. In the past I had only rubbed it with my finger and felt nothing. What baffles me, is that three different vases of the same style have the same marking. Has anybody heard of this happening on other pieces of glass? Also, how can a label, which is embossed on the top, bleed through to the glass? Lastly, if the vase listed at Molta Bella has never been displayed, where could the label have gone? I find all of this very interesting. Thank you for your responses.
Rick
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The label will have had an embossed appearance on the back, so only some of the glued surface will have contacted the glass. The marks are not identical enough to have been made with a stencil. This may explain the marking, http://angelgilding.com/media/documents/Glue_Chip_Instructions.pdf
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For the Molta Bella vase the label probably dried out and fell off.
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Sorry Christine, I thought you meant scrape it all off!... I should have realised that you meant just try to see if a fingernail could remove some of it.
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Thanks so much Christine. Now THAT makes sense. I just found it such a coincidence that a 3 of the same style vases developed the same transfer. Thank you very much for your help. I can now sleep again lol.
Regards
Rick
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Beautiful pieces. The story of them being found packed away rings true. A few years ago a few of these pieces came on the market in pristine condition. I seem to remember that they were packed in straw in the original wooden crates in which they had been exported.
With pieces like this the label isn't quite so important as the design is well documented and the quality of the work speaks for itself.
David
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Thanks for your kind comments David. I agree, the label is not important on these pieces as they are marked and obviously Seguso. I just found the whole label glue etching so interesting. I love Murano glass and want to know as much as possible, so these little things are part of the learning process.
Thanks Again
Rick
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That is intriguing David, and as always, very informative. As you say Rick, this is all part of the learning process... many, including myself, have learned a lot from this posting, so thank you for sharing and posting such clear pictures. :)
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Your welcome Rosie, and thanks for the kind words. I've been collecting Murano glass for only a year and have grown to love it! I've learned so much from this board, Fossillfly, and especially Anita, who I pester with question on a regular basis lol.
Regards
Rick
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Thanks Rick, I mostly collect glass animals and birds, and many are Murano...and like you, I too run to Anita when I need help confirming pieces.... although David has also helped confirm pieces for me in the past and is a mine of information that is concise, interesting and above all, understandable!!
I have recently started to collect V Nason Cars, boats and buildings, and have amassed quite a collection in a remarkably short time.... They look like Jellies and as soon as the decorating (post window installation, that is house windows, not computer windows!!) is complete, I will take some good pictures... in the meantime, there are many on Facebook if you are a member and are interested in seeing them.
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No Rosie, I don't use Facebook. I have an account but don't visit it often. Please let me know when you post your "Jellies".
Rick
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Gorgeous things Rick. Many of us here have AS pieces where the scolloped label has left its outside mark. Never seen this before with named labels but there again the ones I have are in reasonable condition and don't look like coming off. It is almost certainly glue and not etching as David said.
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Thanks for your input Ardy. I've heard from many people, on the board and outside, who confirmed the glue etching explanation. I've found this so interesting and thank everybody for sharing their expertise.
Regards
Rick