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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on March 18, 2014, 02:48:33 PM
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I am absolutely delighted with this vase. It arrived this morning and doesn't want to be photographed well unfortunately. It displays to the eye as a really intense bright turquoise blue with limey green bubbles but my camera wont capture this effect unfortunately. I'll try and get some better pictures later. You should be able to see the intensity of the blue in the close up pic of the foot though. It's fantastic.
I think it's Nazeing. Rough pontil mark on base.
Will have to get my Nazeing pieces out on the shelf now. I'm so pleased with this one.
Quite large at 6" tall by 6 1/4" wide at the rim.
m
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:) Is that the one off ebay? Great price - I was going to bid on it - thought it was Nazeing too (would have gone nicely with my other Nazeing bits) - but forgot about it!
Lovely!
Roberta
This is my bargain ebay find -( am I allowed to post pics in other peoples threads?? I am new so please forgive me if it's not the done thing) - it's only 10cm high - looks like a jug but without a spout!
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Of course you can post pics in other folk's threads especially if they are relevant, like that one!
It's rather an unusual beast - and it has a label. ;D
Welcome to the gmb :)
I like your colour combination, m. A slightly superior bit, I think!
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Thanks Sue :) I think so too 8)
I've only found one other blue and green. I'm so so pleased with it. I don't have a true turquoise vase so this is it.
I hadn't expected to like it that much but it was a bargain so went with it. The pic wasn't good because the camera just doesn't recognise the blue and only reads the enamels, which fortunately look lime green to the eye ... because they are that distemper green in reality ;D
I did have a beautiful turquoise/lime green vase, Mdina, which I used for all my turquoise necessary displays, but I broke it a couple of weeks ago. I was quite upset about that one. It's the first Mdina I'd bought and the chlorides made it look lime green and turquoise :'(
Orange, yes do post, you are welcome. But if you need an id then you will need to post it on it's own thread please.
thanks
m
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What sort of bit did you break? I might be able to replace it. :)
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It was this one Sue.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,30385.msg164528.html#msg164528
I loved this piece because there was so much silver chloride in it that it looked lime green under my lights.
m
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I'll have a look around and see if there's a wee something with those effects you can have. :-*
But it was an unusual beast with all that going on in it!
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oh thanks Sue - I will email you.
I have seen one other, that size and with all that going on, didn't buy it because I 'had one'. I regretted that because the chlorides do such wonderful things to this colour.
I've added two more pics, but neither show how intense the turquoise looks to me. My camera just reads the enamels not the transparent background glass.
m
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Roberta do you think your piece might be a candle holder?
m
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Oh it could be! ;D It looks about the right size to hold a candle - no-one has thought of that - well done! Just thought it was some weird display vase. The label is in great condition for it's age.
thanks!
Roberta
P.S. I have a couple of ID requests going if anyone could look - much appreciated.
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I've just noticed a vase on ebay listed as " Monart / vasart" (which we know it isn't) that looks very similar to yours!
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The very same! but a little smaller. That's three now, two in the space of 12hours :)
There must be more out there.
This one on ebay is the same shape as mine.
The other one I've seen is a straight side shape smaller than these.
Actually I've just refound the other one sold in 2007, and it's a cloudy rather than a bubbly but the same colourway I believe
http://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/Lot/?sale=PG220307&lot=24&id=31439
m
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Isn't it strange how that happens - you find one then they seem to pop up all over the place!
I've sent a message to the seller suggesting it is probably Nazeing, not Ysart!
Anyway, sometimes it's great when people don't quite know what they have - I got a lovely Monart Bowl EC V11 that arrived yesterday courtesy of Ebay! ;D
If anyone's interested I'll post a picture,
roberta
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yikes, I hope it doesn't suddenly start popping up everywhere ;D
I'm hoping it's a coincidence, it was listed shortly after I posted on here.
yes love to see the Monart bowl.
m
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Here is picture of my lovely Monart bowl - I have an orange themed (small) Ysart collection purely by accident - hence the name!
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That's a lovely shape - I like it :)
m
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Thank you, I got a new vase in the post today - It was also Nazeing - lovely colour - quite dense - and bubbles - but massive cracks - 6 in total . Got refunded very quickly. Interestingly it was very lightweight glass - I assume it was much later piece - nothing at all like my other pieces of Nazeing which are generally quite heavy. Nowhere near as nice as your vase!
Roberta
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A slightly unusual shape - all footed Monart is a bit special!
Roberta, to introduce myself to you, I have a sort of interest in Ysart glass - my brother and his partner collect it, but I don't, (Not really. I have 3 bits, which is officially a "collection", but I deny it. ;) )
I'm not therefore overly familiar with patterns and shapes and scarcities in great detail, but I have seen and handled a lot of top stuff, and have taken a bit more than a passing interest along the way.
Flying-free is much more knowledgable about this sort of period than I am.
And I'm not good when it comes to Perthshire or recognising Chic Young's work.
(I do suspect I might have seen something by Jesus Brasso the other weekend. ;D
You can't really miss that sort of thing, and "jesusbrasso" is the sort of noise that escapes out of your mouth when you see one!)
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Who what is Jesus Brasso? That's a new one on me?
Is your brother the one on the GMB who has all the lovely Monart stuff? If it is I'm really jealous - I only have 2 Monart pieces - but both bought unseen (just internet pics) and unnamed, and some bits of Vasart / Strathearn - still learning!
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Sorry - did I just misread that first time round? already had a glass of wine. did you just mean you saw something 'wow' - if so, do tell!
Roberta
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Jesus Brasso was one of the glassmakers with the Ysart family, also from Spain.
He is known for making enormous and thouroughly OTT basket things with great loopy handles and loads of crimping (in a somewhat Spanish style).
The thing I saw was a pale blue massive basket with a big loopy clear glass crimped handle and crimped foot and red trailing around it. eeeeeek! (or, j-hesusbrasso!)
Neither of the Garys here are related to me, my family don't really "do" forums. :)
But they do know Millerart. :)
Are you in Scotland? There is a big exhibition on in Perth Museum right now
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Well I shall look out for his things but I don't think I'll be collecting them!!
No, I'm not in Scotland but am "up North" (nearest city Manchester) - keep trying to persuade my other half to come to Perth with me but he doesn't seem too keen!
He's already asking when am I going to stop buying any more glass, but when I buy things to sell on after a while he says "Oh, I quite like that one" so maybe there's hope yet! ;)
Thank you,
Roberta
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That's a shame. I believe they're getting a load of the stuff normally kept hidden out, and it is well worth seeing.
I've been there several times - along with my family, we arranged a few private viewing sessions, and have seen everything. About 18 bits each visit, we had a lovely private room and white cotton gloves to wear and the lovely Fiona who was curator of the glass at the time, stayed with us and told us what she could - we were even allowed to photograph it.
I don't have access to the images, I'm afraid. :'(
Still, being near Manchester - you should be able to get to the Birmingham fairs! :)
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I've just been reading through some of the old posts on here and discovered that it was not just Nazeing that have the bubbles with the "halo" effect but that some pieces are S & W. Does anyone know how to differentiate between the two?
I've always just assumed that all my pieces were Nazeing (and I've told a few others theirs were too!) - it seems a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. ;D
So - is your vase Nazeing or could it be S & W!!
Roberta
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I find it nearly an impossible task to be honest.
And then there is the 'Nazeing for Elwell' and I think I've read there was also a 'Stevens and Williams for Elwell'.
I could have this one wrong. Because of the way the colour is laid on, the bubbles, and the odd distemper green colour I believe it is Nazeing but it could be 'Nazeing for Elwell' (I find it hard to make that distinction as well). But I don't think it's Stevens and Williams because of the way the colour is laid on, the bubbles I don't think are right and the pontil mark is not right.
So if it's not Nazeing then I don't think it is S&W either. And if I'm wrong, please could Nigel pop in and correct me :)
Frankly, Nigel is the person I rely on ;D
m
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see my reply above
and I also have to admit to being a little suspicious now that another has turned up so quickly after I posted mine.
Maybe I am wrong about Nazeing? Perhaps I needed to have put a question mark in the thread title?
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ah, perhaps I was right to query Nazeing for Elwell possibly. I've found this straight sided one and it has an Elwell label on it. I think it is the same colours of the turquoise base glass with the distemper green swirled in. It just doesn't seem to have the turquoise casing layer showing at the bottom.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/art-of-glass/5985272379/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/art-of-glass/5985834308/in/photostream/
And this will teach me not to search on this site, using all relevant key words I can think of, before I post -
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,33260.msg180809.html#msg180809
If you read from here (Nigel's post) and his next post describing the Elwell find, it seem my vase is possibly Nazeing for Elwell and should probably just be classed as Elwell for now (at least that is what I take out of it).
Also see this article where there is a footed bowl in I think the same decor as my vase, that is listed as Nazeings. click on next page on the article and the Elwell collection is there.
http://www.ysartglass.com/Otherglass/Nazeing/NazeingG01.htm
Thanks for prompting me to delve further.
So the answer to your question is - I'm not the person to ask :)
m
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It just doesn't seem to have the turquoise casing layer showing at the bottom.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/art-of-glass/5985272379/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/art-of-glass/5985834308/in/photostream/
Looking at the first photo (at the top edge ) it looks to me like it does have that turquoise casing.
John
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yes, it might just not be quite as thick at the base, looking at this side on one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/art-of-glass/5985834308/in/photostream/
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Hi,
All my Nazeing bits are part of the Elwell range I think, though only the one is labelled. The glass does seem to vary somewhat, I thought that as it got later the glass seems to get thinner but maybe not!
I always assumed that the glass would be the same be it Nazeing or Nazeing for Elwell and that it was just the designs and the finishing that are different. Did they also use different colours too?
Anyway, in future I will have to be aware of the S&W stuff that may, or may not have been made for them by Nazeing! Nigel on a post somewhere says it is different enough with the bubbles etc. to tell apart even though some of it was in with the Elwell find I believe.
I still think your vase is lovely, I must get round to posting my pink cloudy vase that I'm sure isn't Nazeing but could now be from one of many makers!
Roberta