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Title: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: Littleblackhen on March 20, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
I have seen some similar vases on the Scotland's Glass site, but I can't immediately see this shape, although it is very similar to the Q shape without the handles.  It has stripes and pieces of mica inside the glass, and is aprox 7.25 inches tall.



Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: orangeglass on March 20, 2014, 09:06:21 PM
Have a look on Ysartglass at RA shape - looks very similar and at just over 7" it's not too out to a size VII, pontil  mark looks right to me - it's  beautiful object, but I can't confirm if it is or isn't, see if someone with more experience has a look - Gary or Frank?

Roberta
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: orangeglass on March 20, 2014, 09:14:02 PM
Just had a look at Q - the pattern and colouring does look similar. Is the foot just clear glass - is the pattern on the photo just being picked up as a reflection from the body of the vase?

Roberta
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: Gary on March 20, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
You are correct Roberta it is a Monart vase shape RA.
A real nice piece.
Gary
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: Littleblackhen on March 20, 2014, 11:35:33 PM
The foot is part of the body, so the pattern continues into the foot, then there is a clear glass blob which sticks out from the foot over the pontil.

 Thanks Gary and Roberta for the positive ID, that is good to know.

 I saw this thread earlier http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,53074.0.html  which seemed to indicate that a vase like this in a different colour had made a tremendous price on ebay - any ideas for what is a more realistic current value for this vase please?
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: orangeglass on March 21, 2014, 08:35:37 AM
Hi,

It's only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it!

Roberta
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 21, 2014, 12:13:15 PM
It is absolutely Monart, yes.
I would think that something like this would happily find it's own price in the market.

You might like to consider which market you would like to use though, it is an unusual, good and highly desirable piece of glass indeed.
I would think in £100s, not £1,000s, but you never know - there might be another completely OTT bidding frenzy.
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: Littleblackhen on March 21, 2014, 12:37:16 PM
Thanks Sue :) 

I do find pricing really good items the hardest bit of dealing in glass, especially as being disabled and not driving I don't get out and about very much.

 Going to my first ever glass fair this year at Cambridge was an eye opener for the prices.  Things I had sold for £20 were there for several hundred!  I can't manage online selling so I only sell in my units at Elsecar and Sheffield. 

I will probably put this into my unit at Elsecar, although I have flirted with the idea of saving my best pieces and taking them to a glass fair one year.
Title: Re: Is this Monart?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 21, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
I do know about your desperate troubles and all the rocks and hard places you struggle to survive between.  :-*
(That's why I'm saying a bit more than I normally would.)
You could always try it at something around £450-500-ish, see if anybody bites. They might not.

But this is the sort of thing that might do ok in one of the big Bonham's glass auctions, or even a 99p start on ebay.
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: Gary on March 21, 2014, 08:57:04 PM
I think (IMHO) Sue is maybe a bit optimistic on the estimate of £450 to £500 at the present time.
The shape RA is one of the commonest shapes Monart produced, though on the plus side the type of decoration, known as herringbone and is a fairly rare type of decoration.
I believe it to be an early piece of Monart 1920's to 1939.
It is a piece I would happily have in my collection.
Gary
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: Carolyn Preston on March 21, 2014, 11:31:02 PM
I think (IMHO) Sue is maybe a bit optimistic on the estimate of £450 to £500 at the present time.
The shape RA is one of the commonest shapes Monart produced, though on the plus side the type of decoration, known as herringbone and is a fairly rare type of decoration.
I believe it to be an early piece of Monart 1920's to 1939.
It is a piece I would happily have in my collection.
Gary

I think you should seriously undersell it :-)  To me!

Carolyn
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 22, 2014, 12:18:44 PM
 :-[

I did say try, to see if anybody bit,  ;D but yes, prices are not what they once were (for anything, really) but this is a scarce and desirable pattern, even if it is a more common shape.

Sometimes if it's scarce, prices can reach nearly the prices they did in their hey-day, or there could be a bidding war, like the recent one!

It really is incredibly subjective. ;)
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 22, 2014, 05:29:42 PM
IMHO it wouldn't sell at Elsecar at that price - the dearer stuff seems to stay there a long time.
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: millarart on March 26, 2014, 05:04:43 PM
stunning piece, and pattern goes well with the shape, id say it may surprise folk if put on ebay, very very nice
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 26, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
I reckon it would be worth the effort of putting it on ebay... it would find its own price quite happily, I think.

Could you get anybody to help you with that?  :)
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: millarart on March 26, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
oh im sure I can think of a few lol ::)
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: Littleblackhen on March 26, 2014, 07:24:28 PM
Thank you to everyone for your helpful replies :) 

I am going to Bruges for a couple of days ( a new man in my life is sweeping me off my feet and taking me to all sorts of places I have never been before :D)

When I get back I will think about how to manage getting it on ebay - I have a teenager, I am sure she will help :)

Janet xx
Title: Re: Is this Monart? ID = Confirmed
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 26, 2014, 08:01:49 PM
What lovely news about being swept off your feet - enjoy every single second of it. :)

I do think you will be able to reach the right sort of big audience you need for this rather special vase on ebay.