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Title: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: flying free on March 28, 2014, 09:31:22 AM

I'm very curious about a squat 'Gray-Stan compressed vase' that sold at Woolley and Wallis a few weeks ago in a joint lot with a Gray-Stan candle holder.
The description is not very clear about which of the two pieces is signed, because of the way it's written but clearly states both are Gray-Stan.
Can anyone confirm whether the green 'compressed vase' is a Gray Stan piece please?
I have a piece similar in shape that I believe is the bottom of a lidded box or powder bowl.  Mine has a decor that I thought was another maker but there are slight differences with the way the colour is laid on compared to that maker so I'd decided it might not be.  It's so similar in shape to this green piece that I'm now wondering if mine and this green one are the same maker. 
This green compressed vase at W&W reminds me of a green that I think Paul had that iirc was id'd as Stevens and Williams.  So I'm confused and would appreciate some help please.
Thanks :)
http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/woolley-and-wallis/catalogue-id-2892706/lot-21141213
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Title: Re: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: glassobsessed on March 28, 2014, 12:23:49 PM

The description reads "acid etched marks", plural, so presumably both were marked.

John

Title: Re: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: flying free on March 28, 2014, 12:27:23 PM

yes you are right.

Title: Re: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: glassobsessed on March 28, 2014, 12:31:06 PM

Then there is the thorny problem of auctioneers descriptions which are so often badly written, fanciful or just plain inaccurate...

Title: Re: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: flying free on March 28, 2014, 12:38:12 PM

Yes - 'marks' could mean both are marked, but  I'm still a little suspect that 'marks' could mean Gray-Stan England, i.e. two marks on one piece (the candlestick)
and therefore the bowl could be unmarked.
But having done a pic comparison, my bowl isn't quite the same as the green one, so the discussion might be moot anyway.
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Title: Re: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 28, 2014, 06:24:19 PM

If you read the description, you will find that the little green pot is 29 cm tall, according to them...

The description needs clarified. Their english is lousy.

Title: Re: Is this Gray-Stan? or could it be Stevens and Williams?
Post by: flying free on March 28, 2014, 06:27:11 PM

Yes, I think missing a comma or full stop and clarification that the size (29cm) and mark (Gray-Stan) belongs to the candle holder.

I'd love to know who made the pot even though mine is not quite the same shape.
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