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Title: Tulip vase water carafe help please
Post by: brucebanner on April 08, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Hello there can anyone help me with this please. I think it's a water bottle/carafe, having posted a previous water jug i'm confident this is not a decanter, it has no number to the rim and no wear to the inner rim, a friend said it could be for tulips (which did not help), i'm thinking this is a Stourbridge piece of glass as the pattern reminds me of the ivory white uranium glass vases by Stevens and Williams and Boulton and Mills, however i have been completely wrong several times before any help welcome please, regards Chris.
Title: Re: Tulip vase water carafe help please
Post by: brucebanner on April 08, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
It's 9 1/2 inches in height, 3 1/4 inches across the base and 2 inches across the rim, here is a picture of the type of ivory white uranium vase i was referring to.
Title: Re: Tulip vase water carafe help please
Post by: Paul S. on April 09, 2014, 07:35:44 AM
Hello Chris  -  assume your friend was implying 'for growing tulips' - which it certainly wouldn't be :)

I'd suggest a carafe, in view of the absence of wear inside the neck - but just as a comment, there are many true decanters without matching nos., so that fact on its own wouldn't rule out a decanter.
It's quite possible that the two pieces you've shown are close in date  -  the smaller piece with the stylized acanthus leaf might possibly be a little earlier at c. 1880/90, but there's no reason why they couldn't be similar in age - but more difficult to date the carafe. 
Wheel engraving has been around for a long time, and you'd need to look at other features to help date the carafe - the quality of which looks quite good.           You don't mention wear.

I don't know whether to think there's a similarity regarding the leaf design or not - could be the engraver had an acanthus leaf in mind  -  but other than that I really don't think there's a connection between these pieces, and although the smaller one might have a Stourbridge pedigree, the carafe could be from anywhere.

regret this not of much help :)

As a suggestion, it may be better to avoid the use of the word Ivory when speaking of these C19 pieces with a uranium content  -  just in case there's confusion with Sowerby's Queen's Patent Ivory Ware.
Not that there should be, but people can sometimes pick up the wrong idea just from a brief description,
and always the potential to confuse the Board's search archive. :)
Title: Re: Tulip vase water carafe help please
Post by: brucebanner on April 09, 2014, 08:19:09 AM
Thanks Paul i wont mention the i word, there is a lot of wear to the base and marks around the waist at the widest point.