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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: peejyweejy on May 06, 2014, 04:55:01 PM
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Hi everyone.....is this vase Jobling? I don't know why but it is worrying me a bit. The glass is quite thick and it is approximately 13 inches high. Any ideas please?
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Yes, it's the Jobling fircone pattern
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Any marks?
Bernard C. 8)
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No marks that I can see Bernard.
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Thanks Lustrousstone.
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Peejy — I asked about marks as if we find one of these vases, either the 5000 Fircone or the 6000 Flower Pattern, engraved Regn App For, it would date them to pre September 29 1932. As it is we know they are early, as the only known Jobling reference to them is the PG advertisement of September 1 1933, which also shows the figurine set in a plain 1054 (with base star) or 1054½ (without) floating bowl on a fake or mocked-up plinth.
So, why the scarcity of these vases and centrepieces? It is possible that they had production difficulties, but this seems unlikely as Jobling is known for making modifications to expensive moulds, rather than scrapping them.
An explanation is that they sold the exclusivity of these patterns to a client like Marks and Spencer, something Jobling is known for (Baker & Crowe p58). Such deals were usually private, and are very difficult to establish today without documentation. I've found one other possible example, Walsh / Farquharson's Rainsford pattern, which I believe was the subject of an exclusive deal with a perfumier. Also there are the Rembrandt Guild exclusive designs by Thomas Webb. Other examples must exist.
Bernard C. 8)
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just to add that I have an example of this large Fircone vase (also in uranium), plus two other separate pink and satin green patterns of Fircone bowls - and none has any marks.
As Bernard has mentioned, Baker & Crowe include in their catalogue a full page reproduction of the PG Jobling advertisement which shows an example of the large Fircone vase, and although the ad. is in b. & w. it may well have been a uranium vase that was used, judging by the tone of light grey.
According to the catalogue, Fircone was first Registered in the form of the pattern 5000 bowl (it appears to be the first Registration by Jobling), so does that make it possible that the vase came after the bowl in terms of production?
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Bernard...Thank you so much for the info. It seems I may have one of the very first pieces of Jobling glass then. Very interesting reading...thank you, and you Paul. :)
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... It seems I may have one of the very first pieces of Jobling glass then. ...
Rather all-embracing. I would prefer "one of the potentially earliest pieces of Jobling's 1930s decorative glass".
BTW see http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-12181 for two views of the early centrepiece set I mentioned. The bowl has no base ring, so it would be dangerous to put it on a plinth as per the advertisement, which, from the shadows, or lack of them, I think is a cut and paste job, Paul.
... Very interesting reading ...
That's generous of you and greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Bernard C. 8)