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Title: Venetian vases
Post by: dougdobbins on May 14, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
I have 2 Venetian glass vases that have been in my family since before I was born (1954) and I would like to try to get some information and, potentially, know the relative value of the vases.  If you think you can help, please let me know and I can send a picture.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: SantaR on May 14, 2014, 11:07:59 PM
Hi Doug, welcome!

Can we see them on here please?  It's very interesting to all of us and I'm dying to see what you have  :)
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: dougdobbins on May 14, 2014, 11:41:20 PM
Hi Doug, welcome!

Can we see them on here please?  It's very interesting to all of us and I'm dying to see what you have  :)

I tried to post a picture, but it said it was too large to attach.  I may, simply, not know what I am doing.  I was hoping someone would reply and I could send a picture directly to them via e-mail.  If you can help, it will be appreciated.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: glassobsessed on May 15, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
Each photos need to be 124k or less and you can add up to four photos per post. Some help with photos in the Board Information, Help & Announcements section here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php

There are many ways to resize photos including using photo editing software or websites that will do it for you. If you make the longest edge of any image 700 pixels then that usually works fine.

You can email me the photos if all else fails.

John

Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: brucebanner on May 15, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
You could always  change the settings on your camera to 0.3 mega pixels or less then the pictures will upload as they are, without the use of any software, a lot less hassle in my oppinion.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: dougdobbins on May 15, 2014, 07:01:13 PM
OK, I tried using "Paint" and when I tried to save the reduced picture, it said something about a "sharing conflict" and the smallest ration on my phone is 1280 X 720 which, I am guessing is still too large. 

If someone will e-mail me directly, I will send the pic and, maybe, they can post it for me.  Once again, it would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 15, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
I've reported you to a moderator to ask to have your email address removed.
You might get phished, it's better to seperate the different components of a email address you put here, and to use  AT  instead of @, etc.

You can email any of us by clicking on the little envelope under our names.

Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 15, 2014, 07:45:05 PM
piccie.
 :)
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: Ivo on May 15, 2014, 08:23:39 PM
I would guess these are Bohemian copper flash etched vases made between the late 19th century and circa 1930.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: dougdobbins on May 15, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
I apologize for my ignorance (although, that is the reason I am here trying to learn about these vases) but, what does that mean?  Is "Bohemian" a term that is mutually exclusive to "Venetian" glass?  My mother always referred to them as Venetian glass vases and warned me about their fragility and indicated they had some value although, I understand, value is a relative term.

I would, ultimately, like to attempt to determine some relative value for these vases, if possible.

As always, thanks for your comments.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: Anne on May 15, 2014, 11:37:20 PM
Welcome to the board.  8)

To help you get going with uploading images you need to read our How To topic here:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html)

Bohemian is nothing to do with Venice. Bohemia is an area of Europe - what is now the Czech Republic, Moravia, and Silesia - which were important glassmaking areas until very recently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemia)

By the way, glass wasn't made in Venice itself after 1291, but offshore on Murano:
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Murano’s reputation as a center for glassmaking was born when the Venetian Republic, fearing fire and the destruction of the city’s mostly wooden buildings, ordered glassmakers to move their foundries to Murano in 1291.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murano#History_of_Murano_glassmaking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murano#History_of_Murano_glassmaking)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_glass)
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: Ivo on May 16, 2014, 10:00:02 AM
Most likely producer for your vases was the company of Friedrich Egermann (tip: enter Egermann in google images) who invented copper flashing in the early 19th century and who are still using this process today.
Your vases have no connection to Venice, they are definitely from Bohemia.
Title: Re: Venetian vases
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 16, 2014, 10:52:46 AM
I have a pair of stoppered bottles, quite similar to these but not quite as fancy  :)
They had belonged to my grandmother and had been locked away in a cabinet and were considered to be delicate and fragile and incredibly valuable... by my grandmother.
I don't know if she thought they were "Venetian" or not, but it's possible.
My grandmother, I'm afraid, was clueless.   ::)
They have sentimental value to me - and serve as a warning about the stories grandmothers can tell. :)