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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: chriscooper on May 17, 2014, 02:28:39 PM
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Could it be an earlier PY1 from the Moncrieff glassworks.
Thanks Chris
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Chris, what do you mean by "PY1"?
I have a two examples with the same green "jasper" ground. Both have a "cracked off" pontil scar with some "crunchiness", and those features are usually taken to indicate 1930s period. But the dome on one of mine is noticeably clearer than the "typical" tinted domes from the 1930s - but it could still be pre-war.
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Must have misinterpreted it from here Kev...
" The numbering is by design and those designs starting PY1 were almost certainly made by Paul Ysart at John Moncrieff's glassworks. Designs and weights made after he left Moncrieff are designate PY2 and above, these will be found under Paul Ysart's own name and on Ysartglass.com until all catalogues have been migrated here"
Chris
[Mod: For clarity ... The above quote re "PY1" and "PY2" weights is from the "Scotland's Glass" website and refer to categories originally shown in the "Ysart Glass" website.]
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:D Nice find Chris - did you find it fairly local to you?
Apparently there was a retailer in H'gate - I have seen one example of a vase with a Monart sticker and also a retailer sticker.
Roberta
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Hi Roberta, did you call in the new antique centre when you came over saw these 4 yesterday together in a cabinet bought the Monart one 3 more left think one on the left is probably Strathearn and thought the one on the right Vasart the front one is Perthshire. Don't see much Monart to be honest more Strathearn and Vasart
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Which new antique centre? Last time I was over I went to that one at Pannal but there wasn't anything of interest there!
I know nothing about paperweights but if I had picked that one up with a Monart label I sure would have bought it (at the right price of course!) ;)
Roberta
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Yes the one at Pannal only a couple of miles so go pretty regular some decent bits turn up the 4 were each priced in the £'20s so thought maybe a good price for a Monart?
I know a little about weights and even less about Monart.
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Definitely a good price for a labelled Monart weight, nice one ;D
will have another look next time I'm over that way,
roberta
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A little disappointed that members who know a little more than I do about this seem unwilling to share their knowledge on this occasion.
Anyone want to see the other 2? ;D
Chris
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I'm not sure what else you wish to know Chris? It was a VERY good buy, normally I would expect it to be in the £250+ area.
I'll give you £40 ;D
Yes I'd be interested in your others.
Nick
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Thank's Nick :) I really wanted to know timespan can anyone tell from the canes etc if it's earlier or later, a rough idea what it's worth (thanks) and of course like all good pickers I love to have my ego stroked ;D
Also being a £9.99 come and get it or £19.99 if it's really special type of guy not even sure where to start it.
This and the Perthshire were actually cheaper than the other 2, which my limited knowledge told me were probably Vasart the one on the left the one with the more pastel colours later Strathearn or maybe early Perthshire neither of which have sold very well for me recently? I know a bit about a lot of things but don't profess to be an expert on anything but always quick to give help on things like Whitefriars which I know a bit about and often get frustrated and impatient when I need something back :)
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telt ya lol ;D
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Thanks mate :)
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Hi Chris
The one above in case you're unsure is a pre 1978 (no P cane) Perthshire PP1 if 3", PP2 if 2.5".
Nick
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Thought it maybe probably not much left in them at £25 each will leave them where they are then though the Vasart/Strathearn on the left is a nice large one.
Thanks again Chris
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One more question do you think the one on the right with the pastel colours is Perthshire too Nick ?
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Sorry Chris from the photo it's hard to tell, I assume it was in a glass cabinet and that's reflections in the glass, could be Strathearn wouldn't like to say for sure.
Nick
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Okay thanks will see if I can get a better photo on Saturday.
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I really wanted to know timespan can anyone tell from the canes etc if it's earlier or later, ...
It is extremely difficult to identify the period of a Paul Ysart weight by the canes as there are many examples of the same canes being used from the 1930s through to the 1970s!
And it is often difficult to decide if a PY weight could be 1930s or 1940s/50s period! There are many shades of colour tint to the domes and some "likely 1930s" weights show very little tint. If the dome colour is "yellowish" then it probably indicates mid 1940s to early 1950s (but some 1970s period weights also show a yellow dome tint). There are examples of "likely 1950s" weights which have a very clear dome and without uv tests they could be mistaken for early Caithness period!
As for base finishes ... that is even more complicated! :)
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The dome shows little tinting though not crystal clear it is pretty clear.
Chris
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Hi, that's a great find Chris. It's a Beautiful piece.
I have been collecting Scottish glass for a few years and would love that in my collection. ;D it's hard to find quality Paul Ysart weights. Even though Paul Ysart was my great grand father it still isn't easy.
Lisa
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Hello Lisa, it is a lovely weight not a collector and having just lost my job sadly it had to go but got a good price for it so happy days :)
Thanks Chris
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Hi Lisa,
I'm also a collector of Ysart glass, but not paperweights!
how exciting that Paul was your great-grandfather, so that would make Salvador your great great grandfather!
Do you have any family pieces? If you do, please post in British glass for us to look at :D . if not, that's sad, but a great reason to collect their glass.
Roberta