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Title: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: rocco on May 17, 2014, 05:43:08 PM

Vase or decanter, 4-part mould, oxblood red and white mottling; cased in light blue glass.
Base deeply indented (no pontil mark), rim hot worked.
Height appr. 25 cm.

Pieces like this I see on the web described as "Verrerie/Cristallerie de Clichy", Legras, Pantin, from around 1900.
>> Link to a whole set with the same decor (http://store.frenchcachet.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=2135414087&id2=2220183&id3=YES&id4=FrenchCachet.com)
>> same shape, but with aventurine, described as "Legras" (http://www.madforglass.com/french/french_1953b.html)
several ebay pieces: >>link 1 (http://www.ebay.fr/itm/111330866387?clk_rvr_id=634901204856) >>link 2 (http://www.ebay.fr/itm/111201353738?clk_rvr_id=634897335431) >>link 3 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Ancien-Vase-Clichy-1900-Pantin-Legras-/261393585876)

Which one is correct? Or were there several glassmakers at Clichy producing pieces like these?
And is it really that old? (the design seems quite modern for a piece of that age)

Thanks!
Michael

Title: Re: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: glassobsessed on May 17, 2014, 06:38:29 PM

Here is another, I assumed it was missing a stopper, my guess at the time was Bohemian or Czech but...

John

Title: Re: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: Ivo on May 17, 2014, 07:57:45 PM

You see this type of glass a lot in france and it is almost always described as Legras (verrerie de pantin) or Clichy - the company they took over. So I guess all three names are legit. You may want to look this up for verification though...

Title: Re: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: rocco on May 17, 2014, 08:21:26 PM

Thanks John, Ivo!
So the maker is confirmed, but are they really late 19th century?

I haven't seen a single one with a stopper so far, so I think they came without.
The mould lines are a feature I haven't come across yet in any Bohemian/Czech spatter pieces...
(BTW, lovely colours in your vase, John).

Michael

Title: Re: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: pamela on May 17, 2014, 08:52:42 PM

 Legras 1898  (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Legras-1898.310.0.html)  ;D :-*

Title: Re: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: rocco on May 17, 2014, 09:11:54 PM

Oooh, phantastic Pamela!
Somehow this has totally escaped my attention (due to the not-pressed-glass nature of the pieces perhaps ;) )

Thank you so much! :-*

Michael

Title: Re: Mottled vase / decanter - French? Clichy?
Post by: glassobsessed on May 17, 2014, 09:38:07 PM

That also solves this pair (Gourde 3216), thank you Pamela!