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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Tigerchips on May 24, 2006, 07:11:05 PM
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Hi me again, my charity shop has one of these yard ale's which it would like to sell.
http://www.whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=1763
It is clear glass and 3ft long with a "Full Lead Crystal" label. It also has a box but the flap is missing from the top and the bottom is sellotaped up.
Question 1: What should the original box look like? This one is the usual cardboard box kind of box with large staples to join it. No marks whatsoever. The Yard ale is held in the box by two yellow sponges and they fit perfectly in the box as does the yard ale itself.
Question 2: A clear one has sold recently for £40. Will the box (if original) and sticker increase the price at all?
Thanks. :)
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It was quite common to use plain boxes for many makers - it is quite expensive to have boxes made to size and if you add printing you need a large quantity to make it economical.
If their value is going down it means people doubt they are genuine or all who want one have one. Go for 100 is my suggestion.
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Hi Tiger :D It's unclear from your posting if you mean it's got a Whitefriars sticker or not.
There was a lot of these yards of ale about at one time (70's?) and I'm not sure Whitefriars were the only makers.
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They would be very happy to get that amount or even half that amount. There are a few Whitefriars collector's that comes in, I'll stick £100 on it and see how it goes. :D
Thanks Frank. :D
Yes, sorry Max, it's got a black and white Whitefriars sticker saying "Full Lead Crystal", as seen on Whitefriars.com.
While someone was cleaning it I spotted the Whitefriars sticker. I litterally jumped off my seat shouting "Whitefriars" and I also did the Victor Meldrew impression (I don't Believe it!).
Before all this someone had stuffed it in a corner and we kept knocking it over as we passed it. :shock:
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Before all this someone had stuffed it in a corner and we kept knocking it over as we passed it.
You have a great way with words! :lol: :lol: I'm glad it's got the proper WF sticker...lovely find! xx
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I vaguely remember that they came with certificates of authenticity that looked like faux-parchment.... or it could have been a strange dream. But I think that they did. :lol:
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Max, Before I had the internet I had a diary on my computer which I used to talk to myself. I've had plenty of practice typing on my diary but it was nothing compared to speaking to ladies such as yourself. :oops:
Hi, Pinkspoons Perhaps the certificate is in the bottom of the box, I haven't really looked.
You must get some very interesting strange dreams? I know my day dreams are a bit weird. I can't get antique's off my brain and I only stop to look at a woman every 2 minutes, is that normal? :lol:
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Yes Nic, they did come with a certificate.
The ruby ones seem to fetch most moolah about £100, a flint one on e-bay a month or so ago didn't do very well at all, can't remember exactly but £0 - £40 maybe and it had its certificate. All down to market trends, but this one with label has an advantage..so go for it Tiger!
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You must get some very interesting strange dreams? I know my day dreams are a bit weird.
Most of my dreams involve pubs... :D
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One of the most interesting things about a Yard of Ale such as this that if you examine the closed end, you should see that there is no punty mark. Yet the open end has a fire polished rim. So do you know how was it made?
:D
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What a great question! Wish I had the answer! Emmi
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Balanced on a pint of Ale perhaps :twisted:, or the opening finished after.
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Hi, I have spoken to the man that knows.............. They were "knocked off" the blowing iron and then stood up against the gloryhole to allow the bulb end to cool but the end requiring finishing to stay warm. It was then held by the now cool bulb end and slowly reheated in the glory hole. It was then "sheared off" and finished as you would a rim to a vase.
Regards Patrick...
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Thanks, Patrick...you probably didn't realise my question was really tongue in cheek. The point about the yard of ale is that it is one of the very few shapes that can be made without annealing and that can be cooled down to a temperature that can be handled at one end (just above room temperature) while the other hand can be re-heated to about 900 degrees in the glory hole. These propertiess are related to the actual method of blowing which involves very little stress developing in the glass as it is actually being blown.
In many glass factories/studios yards of ale were and still are made as official/unofficial friggers at weekends and then exchanged for suitable liquid refreshments in local pubs!!
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Tongue in cheek or not, it was an interesting question and the answer equally interesting. something I at least didn't know and possibly others. thanks for that.
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One of these days we might get round to organising a demonstration. It is quite visual! :D