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Title: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: orangeglass on June 03, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
Hi,
This is a shape OE  size VI - 9" high with an unusual colour technique, the glass is very thick and contains uranium - will post some more pictures later with it glowing!

Roberta
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: Frank on June 03, 2014, 04:20:55 PM
Cased Cloisonné very nice, it took a lot of work to achieve that.
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 03, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
it's utterly fabulous

- apart from the shape which is appalling. (IMNSHO!)
A bucket. A boring, plant pot minus interesting rim, shaped bucket.
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: Gary on June 03, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
I agree with Sue, great colours and decoration, but not a favourite shape of mine.
Roberta could you post a picture of your two uranium pieces in the thread about Monart uranium glass. It would be good to keep a permanent record of Monart uranium all in one thread.
Gary
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 03, 2014, 08:05:24 PM
The colours and decoration are wonderful, absolutely wonderful.   ;D
Roberta, your images have brightened up my day!
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: orangeglass on June 03, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
Hi all - here's some pictures under UV - I've only got a little torch so not the best but it gives you a reasonable idea - it looks much better in reality!
Gary - I will also post some in the other thread - is that the one with my FA vase or is there another one?

It my be a "boring" bucket shape but it was probably a very difficult technique (that's why there are so few of them!) so to do it in different shapes was probably a nightmare!
 Saying that one of my favourite shapes is the FA.

Note the inside view shows mainly all green so I guess the base glass is uranium glass, with coloured enamels applied on the outside then cased in non-uranium clear glass   ???

Roberta
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: Frank on June 03, 2014, 10:13:44 PM
Shape would make no difference as that is done after the final casing.
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: orangeglass on June 03, 2014, 10:23:38 PM
Thanks for that Frank!  :D

Any guesses on date - pre war?

Roberta
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: Frank on June 08, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
Post War Paul Ysart
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: Gary on June 08, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Cased Cloisonné very nice, it took a lot of work to achieve that.
The decoration style is more like what is describe as veined in the YSART GLASS book on pages 42 & 43 style 7 & 8.
The first link shows a cased cloisonne. The second link shows a veined example. Both are from the Ian Turner collection
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-vi-oe-vase-4149201-details.aspx?from=salesummary&intObjectID=4149201&sid=974207a2-dd85-4c38-9d78-c17ac1d3ff04

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-vi-oe-vase-4149201-details.aspx?from=salesummary&intObjectID=4149201&sid=974207a2-dd85-4c38-9d78-c17ac1d3ff04
Post War Paul Ysart
How come you came to the view it is post war. Another picture of the base and how it is finished would help, if you could Roberta.
Gary
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: orangeglass on June 08, 2014, 06:31:31 PM
Both the links were the same but I found the other one, were they made using a similar process?

I must admit I was going to ask Frank how he arrived at his answer - to me, and must say I am a novice at this, so I do not feel in a position to disagree with Frank, I thought it was earlier.
The glass is so similar to my FA uranium vase and nothing like (the glass) of my post war pieces; there are loads of base scratches, I just "feel" it is older.
Anyway, here are some more base pictures: Please feel free to discuss this amongst yourselves  ;D

Roberta
Title: Re: Another Monart - unusual OE Uranium
Post by: Gary on June 08, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
The missing link  :) for the veined piece
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-vi-te-299-vase-4149194-details.aspx?from=salesummary&intObjectID=4149194&sid=b507041a-d2fb-4cc6-96f8-917264b9a404
Image below also shows veining type decoration.

I have no knowledge how the veining is achieved and some basic knowledge how to achieve the cloisonne effect.
Having seen the base photos personally I am certain it is pre 1940.
Gary