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Title: Another Cross Paperweight -- ID Sought
Post by: paperweights on June 09, 2014, 09:52:50 PM

The discussion of the Friedrich Egermann Cross Weight reminded me that I have an unknown maker cross weight that has defied identification so far.  See the pictures below.  Any help will be appreciated.  Could this be another Egermann Cross Paperweight?

http://paperweights.com/paperweights/pw3558sm.jpg (http://paperweights.com/paperweights/pw3558sm.jpg)  Large Picture

http://paperweights.com/paperweights/pw3558c.jpg (http://paperweights.com/paperweights/pw3558c.jpg)   Profile View

http://paperweights.com/paperweights/pw3558bot.jpg (http://paperweights.com/paperweights/pw3558bot.jpg)  Bottom View

I purchased it thinking it might be from Boston and Sandwich.  John Hawley examined it and the specific gravity of 3.175 is outside the normal range for B&S.  Similarly the UV fluorescence was a pale yellow green, which is not typical for B&S.  Both results would point to New England Glass Company but this is not a typical NEGC type cross.

Title: Re: Another Cross Paperweight -- ID Sought
Post by: w8happiness on June 10, 2014, 03:27:48 PM

Hello Allan,

in the PCA Bulletin Susie Kaplan Jacobson wrote about Masonic symbols in paperweights-
there are illustrations similar cross weights- implying masonic and "rosicrucian" symbols- and are attributed
to the NEGC makers. (2012 Bulletin page 61 ff.)

The green flash ground is definitely not a known feature to Friedrich Egermanns paperweights,
and Egermann's canes are definitely different- even the simplest are composed by overlaid "hollow" tubes,
the more complex are bundled star rods in many variations...
The canes in your weight are more reminding of NEGC regular makeshift,

Anyway a very nice weight,   Kind regards, Erhard 

Title: Re: Another Cross Paperweight -- ID Sought
Post by: tropdevin on June 10, 2014, 05:28:59 PM

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Hi Allan.  When I see 5 cog canes my first thought is Bohemia / Silesia, my second is NEGC / B&S, my third is Whitefriars (but only if they look like Whitefriars canes...).  Based on the overall look of your paperweight, I would go for NEGC / B&S, as you did originally.

Alan 

Title: Re: Another Cross Paperweight -- ID Sought
Post by: w8happiness on June 10, 2014, 06:29:23 PM

Quote from: w8happiness on June 10, 2014, 03:27:48 PM

Hello Allan,

in the PCA Bulletin Susie Kaplan Jacobson wrote about Masonic symbols in paperweights-
there are illustrations similar cross weights- implying masonic and "rosicrucian" symbols- and are attributed
to the Boston and Sandwich works. (2012 Bulletin page 61 ff.) (-my bad bad Memory- had NEGC in mind at first...)

The green flash ground is definitely not a known feature to Friedrich Egermanns paperweights,
and Egermann's canes are definitely different- even the simplest are composed by overlaid "hollow" tubes,
the more complex are bundled star rods in many variations...
The canes in your weight are more reminding of NEGC regular makeshift,

Anyway a very nice weight,   Kind regards, Erhard

Title: Re: Another Cross Paperweight -- ID Sought
Post by: paperweights on June 10, 2014, 07:08:05 PM

Thanks for the responses (Alan and Erhard)

As I said, I purchased the paperweight believing it to be from Boston and Sandwich.  John Hawley agrees that it is an antique, but feels it is outside the range (UV Fluorescence and Specific Gravity) normally associated with B&S.  It has the "feel" of a NEGC weight, but NEGC didn't make crosses in this style.