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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: bat20 on June 19, 2014, 05:26:03 PM
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Hi all,i bought this because it's right up my street,wobbly,applied decoration and just a lovely colour,on closer inspection i noticed it has a lot of wear,flattening the glass in some places,it has a few small cracks with carbon travelling up into them and then a pontil mark of 3 small bits of broken glass,the surface is pitted with a slight iridescence looking from above and a trailled glass decoration seemingly pushing in the glass at times with a couple of large air bubbles in the rim.To add it's a bout 9cm high ,but can't find my tape measure,any thoughts many thanks,i should also add it's very light.
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A better light,but a worse camera i'm afraid and i hope it helps to see the pitted surface in places,i don't think it's modern recycled glass and the wear on the foot looks genuine to me in the same places it wobbles ???
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Gordiola possibly.
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From 1719 maybe Ivo,it's very light but has extreme wear to a part of the thread of glass it sits,like a folded foot,and to two corners of the base.
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Is there scavo inside the broken off pontil mark. If shiny then it will have to be recent
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That's interesting,scavo is a new one to me Ivo,do you think someone has scavo'd the out side to make it look old? and are you just talking about Gordiola made glass,sorry to be a pest but this sort of stuff is gold dust to me,maybe someone has wet and dried the foot,seems alot of effort for a tenner. ???
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It is simple. If it is really old then the withering is all over. If it is a chemical withering done on the blowpipe, then the pontil mark will remain shiny.
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I wonder if this vase that I have
have any relation to yours ..... ???
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http://www.gordiola.com/pdf/Excavaciones.pdf
is why I suggested Gordiola.
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in my case the association with Spanish glass is equivocal.
This vase I bought in TANGIER (Cosmopolitan city) Morocco.
I bought glass there: Scandinavian / French / Czech / Belgian / Italian ....
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Thanks for the replies and input chaps,i think i need to handle alot more glass,but to my eye and hand this piece seems very different from pieces i've seen and handled in this genre.
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As a matter of interest ,where's the best place to go to see medieval,or older, glass live,i'm sure they won't let you pick it up though,but it would be nice to have a gander.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Kunstpalast
has the most extensive collection. In general, waldglas is a German affair.
The Fitzwilliam has a nice historical collection, but waldglas is underrepresented.
Not sure what the V&A has on show.
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Thanks Ivo,might be a nice day out.
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Managed to get my hands on a better camera today with a stronger light to show the pontil marks and the type of wear for anyone interested in this thread.