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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Pat Slawich on June 24, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
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I purchased this vase at a flea market because I liked it....I was told it was Art Deco but I am unfamiliar with that glass and was looking for some help. The vase is a very deep blue and looks like it was blown...it is very heavy...8 1/2 inches tall and the Handles of which there are three are totally clear. The top has a pointy end and there are the handles which are clear and then the glass goes into dark blue all of one part and the blue swirls slightly down to the base. I am attaching a picture of vase.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Pat
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Hello Pat and welcome to the board. Your image seems to have slipped off somewhere - can you attach it to a reply please? If you're having problems uploading then feel free to send me copies of images and I'll add them to the topic for you.
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Images added for Pat...
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Hi Pat.. my own opinion would be that this has nothing to do with art deco......a style that was typified more by symmetrical and linear design/shape than your piece, which shows a more free form style.
regret I can't help with an attribution, but might suggest that date wise it's possibly from the 1960's.
It has some similarities with the Czechoslvakian blown pieces decorated with pulled lobes - also makes me think of British Liskeard and W/F's 'Knobbly' and 'Knobberly' decoration.
I don't think it is either of these British houses, but just that this type of free form decoration seems to have been in vogue during that period. :)
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I agree with Paul that this design is very much not Art Deco. Art Deco is defined as a design style of the 1920s and 1930s characterized especially by bold outlines, geometric and zigzag forms. It is soaring and streamlined, often with multiple parallel lines, sometimes with fan shaped or occasionally with intersecting lines.
Most dealers and sellers of old things do not know the difference between art deco, arts and crafts, mid-century modern, and whatever. What they do know is if they use terms like these - whether or not they apply in any way or not and they usually do not - then they can get a higher price.
If you look on pinterest and enter art deco you will see many examples of what is art deco - though of course since it is not a moderated site there will be 10 percent to 20 percent that is not art deco, but most of will be. The more you look at examples that more you will be able to judge for yourself what is and what is not art deco. You will soon begin to tell which of the photos there are not of art deco objects - though most of them are. Then you will be able to judge glass objects as to whether they are art deco or if you have another all too common dealer who is throwing the word around to get a better price for something that is not, or to be kind who is simply not knowledgeable.
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Agreed. As a Deco fan & somewhat of a Deco collector I see the term Deco thrown around for almost anything, but especially intertwined with Art Nouveau as if it has a figural lady somewhere involved in the design it must be Deco.
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A base shot would be useful
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Hi...there are three shots included in the original post, full vase, top and base. I seem to have some agreement that the vase maybe Chekoslovacian?....possibly bohemian...but probably not that old....help? Thanks everyone and especially Anne for posting my pictures. Thank you. any help much appreciated.
Pat
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Lustrousstone is almost certainly referring to the underside of the base, literally - it's that part of most glass items that has the potential to tell us a lot about the origin and possible age of a piece. :)
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Sorry I misunderstood. The base of the vase is flat...no markings nothing on the bottom at all...its like a knife sliced it off.
Pat
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I would not say there is agreement on it being Czech or Bohemian. Of course it could be, but it could just as well be American, British, Italian, Chinese, Scandinavian, or pretty much any other country. The design is a bit generic. I would agree that it does not have much age.
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Doesn't look Czech to me...
>> Here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sklo-Union-Skrdlovice-Beranek-Forest-Green-Vase-Perfect-Condition-c1960s-/171095068620?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item27d60f8fcc) is another one on ebay uk, described as "Sklo Union Skrdlovice" (which it definately is neither). ;)
Michael
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Michael...it looks exactly like mine only in green :) What kind of glass is Sklo Union Skrdlovice?
Pat
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Pat, very short (lots of info here on the board ;) ): Sklo Union were several glassworks in Czechoslovakia producing pressed glass, Skrdlovice was a company making hotworked glass (vaguely similar to your vase), but your vase is not Skrdlovice.
Just wanted to show the vase on ebay, and point at the misattributions there...
Sorry, can't help much further than that
Michael
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Hi I think I was the last one to ask about this vase on the board, seems like this vase has been asked about at least once a year!! Japan ( due to the colour of the green one ) seemed to be the most likely source, but no formal ID so far on its origin.
Cheers, David
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Hi Michael...just asking....why do you feel this vase is not Sklo Union Skrdlovice? From looking on line at other vases under this name to my untrained eye it does look like it might be possible. Thank you for any help.
Pat
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Hi Pat,
Skrdlovice glass is very well documented (there are long threads with dozens of pieces in the Bohemian subforum), so we know that your vase isn't Skrdlovice: shape is wrong, colours are wrong.
This kind of hotworked glass wth pulled lobes was very popular and made almost anywhere in the world.
Japan, as David suggested, is quite possible...
Do not trust internet attributions without a backup ;)
Michael
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I'm more than happy to buy the decision that this is probably not Czech. - there are some clever people here who would probably know if it was.
However, are Michael and David basing their 'Japan' provenance solely on the colour - bearing in mind the fact, as we know, that pieces with pulled lobes might be from almost anywhere in the world??
Is there some indication other than colour for thinking it might be from that part of the globe? :)
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We still need a picture of the bottom to see the finish
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I am uploading a picture of the bottom of the vase...hope it helps.
Pat