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Title: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: essi on June 27, 2014, 07:38:18 PM

apologies, in advance i do not have a photograph of this vase,i saw it in an antique shop and could only get the rd number.
it has a trumpet bowl  and a turned over foot of about 6 mm. overall height is about 100mm.
the rd number is 5433290,that places it around 1908 to 1909.
i have the glass association book of rd numbers but no actual mention of this number.
any help would be appreciated
thank you

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 27, 2014, 07:51:20 PM

Design registered by Thomas West Carnie on 5 June 1909. In S&W pattern book for 1923 as 53254. Also made by Whitefriars in a smaller ribbed form in various colours

http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1726
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1725

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: essi on June 27, 2014, 08:30:57 PM

thanks very much christine for that speedy reply ,thats what makes this site so good.
has there ever been a thread as to the difference between the s/w stuff and the w/friars.
thanks again

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: chriscooper on June 28, 2014, 10:24:16 PM

I had a Whitefriars ribbed version in Amethyst cannot find a photo but here is the cat. page.

http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=1532

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: stevejl on June 28, 2014, 10:42:03 PM

The fact that your example had a stamped registration number suggests to me that it would have been by S&W - I can't recall seeing any Whitefriars glass with a registration number, although I haven't owned this particular shape and therefore happy to be corrected.   :)
 
Cheers,                Steve L

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: essi on June 28, 2014, 11:43:27 PM

thanks Chris and Steve,the item i saw was an engraved rd number or possibly acid etched.
if i go back to the shop to check on that i might end up buying it ,it looks a very nice thing.
thanks again

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 29, 2014, 08:42:56 AM

These seem to have been made for Thomas Carnie or to his design by both companies; some have rd numbers, others do not but by the time the shape appears in the 1931 catalogue, the registration would have expired. My S&W one is unribbed

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16536.10.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,36340.0.html

Title: Re: amertyst vase with rd number
Post by: essi on June 29, 2014, 06:20:09 PM

thanks once again Christine,it was interesting and informative to read those old threads.