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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: keith on June 29, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
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6 and 6.25 inches tall, very heavy with medium wear and polished pontil marks, they remind me a S&W's vase and bowl I have, any ideas please, ;D
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Could these be Webbs? just a thought, ::) ;D
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They are Webb vases. I cannot remember if the colouring is striped or a spiral....... Nigel Benson attributed a bowl in amethyst for me a while back, they are great designs, heavy and stylish.
Robert
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Many thanks Robert I was just looking at one of my Webb vases that had similar ribbing,ta, ;D ;D
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Just to support Robert's accurate T/Webb id........... there is an identical purple blotched example in volume one of the Parkington catalogue (1997) - page 39 item 310 - and which is described as .....
"......a Webb thick walled fluted vase internally decorated with purple splotches and bubbles".
Very nice find Keith :)
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Thanks Paul, is that catalogue easy to find ? ;D
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not usually a problem Keith - I keep it in the spare bedroom, and never given me a problem finding it yet ;D ;D
I found both on line - from memory one was only a fiver, but the other cost me about £30 and came from the States. There are sources I think that deal in old auction catalogues.
Am sure you'll find them if you hunt around, and judging by the contents they should contain much that's of interest to you.
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;D ;D
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have to remember these catalogues don't provide in depth descriptions, and illustrations are smallish, but picture quality is good and MP's collection spanned a wide variety of British genre, and mainly from the high end. :)
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Have just been looking online at past auctions for Christies, although they go back to 1997 there seems to be a lot of missing pictures, out of interest what was the estimate placed on the piece ?
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unfortunately, can't really give you a precise answer Keith...........in the catalogue this fluted piece was lumped together with another, possibly more desirable, T/Webb 'Waterlilies' - 'Iris' ware vase..... and the two, combined, were given an estimate of £150 - £200.
It may well be that in the intervening years T/Webb pieces such as this have done well - regret I've not bought such pieces, so can't help. :)
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Thanks anyway Paul, the waterlily pieces usually fetch quite a bit, one on ebay recently for £150 ! these were a fraction of that ;D ;D
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Well spotted Paul !!
The actual realised price for the lot in question is published in the back of part 2 (for part 1 of the auction) and lot 310 went for £195.50 for the two (page 63 of part 2). I have a list of realised prices for part 2 of the auction if anyone wants copies (I will send via email) but they might still be available on-line , but I can't find it . The only use for this would be a comparison of relative prices at the time, I guess (but it is also relevant as an indication of real value now of course , if prices have remained buoyant or improved for rare pieces ) :) Part 1 , I also bought on ebay from the States (as did Paul) and is much more difficult to get hold of.....but well worth it if you can ! Ta, Mike.
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thanks Mike. I looked in the back of Part 1 to see if there was a list of hammer prices, and of course there isn't - so I just assumed Part 2 would follow suit - how wrong can you be, and thanks for pointing that out. :)
Would agree that these catalogues are proving very useful in the fairly short time I've had them.
I'd agree with Keith that the Waterlilies pieces are more inclined to make bigger money.
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Should have looked in Ch first - just spotted that this design is also shown in 'C20 British Glass' - page 302.
Hajdamach shows an example with a blue spiral, and comments that it was designed by Stan Eveson c. 1961, so does this make it a member of the 'Flair' range?
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Doh ! what a dummy ! I was only looking at the flair range the other day !! where's me ginko tablets ! ::) ;D ;D ;D
Thanks again Paul, ;D ;D
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designed by Stan Eveson c. 1961, so does this make it a member of the 'Flair' range?
My thoughts as well. There are a few items I have that don't follow the conventional Flair ideal (e.g. no included bubbles), but I believe are part of that range. Strange that there doesn't appear to be much documentation on Webb's output during these years, but the company was taken over by Edinburgh Crystal in 1964, so perhaps that's some form of reason.