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Title: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rocco on July 05, 2014, 09:57:01 AM
Nice small goose or duck, pink mottled glass with thick opalescence, feet and beak clear glass, flat highly polished base. Height 15 cm.

Any idea of a maker? -- I have searched Anita's zoo, but couldn't find a match (especially regarding the thick opalescence and the wings).
My best bet would be Fratelli Toso...

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: ottogrunf on July 05, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
archimede seguso
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rosieposie on July 05, 2014, 11:36:32 AM
Agree,  I have a lovely squirrel in this colourway, although I have no label to prove it is Seguso. :(
 
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rocco on July 05, 2014, 06:23:11 PM
Thank you both!
Love the squirrel  :)
The pink in mine is mottled, though...

Michael
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: glassobsessed on July 06, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
I think this style would be described as 'opalino' rather than say alabastro (where I would expect not to find any clear glass).

My initial reaction was not Seguso but in Pina's book on Seguso (Lace and Stone) there are a couple of small pink opalino birds (page 151). I had wondered about that mottled pink too but on page 166 there is a figure with a core of mottled pink glass so I see no reason why not.

John
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rosieposie on July 06, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
Does the goose glow a fiery orange when bright light shines through it rocco?  My Squirrel does,  quite dramatically.
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: Ivo on July 06, 2014, 12:35:35 PM
Google image "Albastro Seguso" and be amazed what comes up. Opalino (aka incammiciato) would be a blown cased glass - not something for making birdies.  Admittedly the Italians use their terminology lightly, and Piņa even more so. Seguso named his pinky shade of milk Albastro.
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: glassobsessed on July 06, 2014, 12:53:04 PM
Neither the bird or squirrel look like AS alabastro.  Examples in pink: https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/GlassFromMurano#5730197280647745090

and also orange: https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/GlassFromMurano#5906731186171052818

As it happens AS alabastro is not opalescent.

Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rocco on July 06, 2014, 01:53:20 PM
Thanks a lot for the contributions! :)
I would call it simply opalescent, not opaline or alabastro...
The core is pink mottled glass, then cased in opalescent glass of which the wings are formed.
Then the clear glass beak and feet applied.

What somehow made me wonder if it is really A. Seguso are the wings - in Seguso's birds I haven't seen this style.

Michael
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: TxSilver on July 06, 2014, 02:53:11 PM
Great goose, but I don't know who made it. I agree that it is opaline glass and not alabastro. I was pulled toward Fratelli Toso or Cenedese, but I don't know. Rosie's squirrel is very different in the technique. Her squirrel is probably by Seguso VdA or Cenedese. The feet and bill of your goose look like Fratelli Toso, but other people did this type design. I can tell it is a good bird. I wouldn't discount AVeM as a possible maker.

Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 06, 2014, 03:12:56 PM
It's a really good thing for a glass sculpture and a very attractive piece.

But for a goose... its wings would never get it off the ground, they're too short, quite apart from the fact that it's more than a bit overweight.
A goose for foie gras?
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rocco on July 06, 2014, 03:52:11 PM
Thanks Anita, Sue!
Fratelli Toso and AVeM were my top candidates after I had browsed through the Zoo...

@Sue: yes, a bit clumsy, but still quite a bit more wings than most other Murano glass geese and ducks ;)
BTW, did you see that one wing has 6 "fingers", while the other one has 7?

Michael
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 06, 2014, 04:20:51 PM
I didn't notice that, no.
I'm absolutely fascinated by it. I think it's as much the dichotomy of it being such a beautiful thing which makes it look right, while still being somehow completely wrong that is attracting me.
I like dichotomies.  ;)
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: TxSilver on July 06, 2014, 06:49:13 PM
The more I hear, the more I think Fratelli Toso. The workmanship reminds me of this dove that has a Toso label. It had feathers a bit out of balance, some little, some big. I think there were 6 on one wing and 7 on the other. It's gone now, so I can only count in the pictures. (Wish we could find a goose or duck like yours with a label.)
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: ottogrunf on July 06, 2014, 07:47:01 PM
if you can help this is definitely Seguso
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rocco on July 07, 2014, 06:43:44 AM
@Sue: somehow the proportions are really lovely in my little goose, cannot explain why either (it is quite clumsy ;) )
@Anita: thanks, I think that was one of the birds in your zoo which reminded me of my piece.
@Otto: Anita's bird seems a better match (no opalescence or mottling in your Seguso bird, different wings). Lovely bird, though :)

Michael
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: johnphilip on July 07, 2014, 09:23:06 AM
Many domestic Geese don't fly . mine never did . other than about twenty inches off the ground .
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: rocco on July 07, 2014, 01:47:40 PM
So definately a domestic and not a wild goose ;D

Michael
Title: Re: Pink mottled opalescent goose
Post by: johnphilip on July 07, 2014, 06:41:09 PM
If you poke him he may be wild .
 ;D