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Title: Covered honey modelled on a thatched straw hive
Post by: Bernard C on July 08, 2014, 11:09:09 AM

See five images on GlassGallery, with click image to enlarge feature, via http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-20033

H. 12.5cm (5"), width across base 10.5cm (4"), w. 549g (1lb 3½oz).

Nice item that I can't recall seeing before.   The rather inaccurate bees on the lid and sides make its use obvious.   Note the little landing area just in front of the entrance arch and the traditional coiled straw roll construction of the sides.   Using this construction for the lid as in a traditional skep would have necessitated the addition of a handle of some type, solved by making the lid look like thatch, with the thatching straw bunched at the top to make a handle.   Clever.

Probably not British.   I can't find a real life lookalike on the internet.   Any information as to style, maker, or date would be most welcome.

Thanks for your interest,

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Covered honey modelled on a thatched straw hive
Post by: Ivo on July 08, 2014, 11:27:45 AM

could be Von Streit 1913 - or could be Portieux. There are several variations on the theme. Not sure but I think Leerdam made these too..
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/index2.html

Title: Re: Covered honey modelled on a thatched straw hive
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 08, 2014, 11:35:33 AM

Not Leerdam because the front bee is in the wrong place
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1986

As it is for Portieux/Vallerysthal
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vallerysthal-Portieux-1908.65+B6YmFja1BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MyZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD02NSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1995

And the knob is wrong for Imperial Glass

Not Streit because too many details are different
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Streit-1913.105+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMDUmcHJvZHVjdElEPTQ2NjMmZGV0YWlsPQ__.0.html

Previous discussion
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,52665.msg298927.html#msg298927

Title: Re: Covered honey modelled on a thatched straw hive
Post by: Bernard C on July 13, 2014, 10:38:19 AM

Ivo & Christine — thanks for your replies.   I've checked my piece and it doesn't react to my UV tester, so not uranium green.

I've tried to follow the previous discussion you mentioned, Christine, but got lost.   I'm content with "Pretty C20 lidded honey, probably European".

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Covered honey modelled on a thatched straw hive
Post by: mrvaselineglass on July 30, 2014, 07:07:15 PM

Boyd Glass (USA) owns a mold which has the same number of horizontal rows (10) on the base, but the bees have different placement, and the finial on the lid is different, as is the location of the bees on the outside of the base.  It is contemporary and has been made in numerous colors.  I don't know who made your version, nor do I know where Boyd got their mold.  In the little book they released, it only mentions that they acquired a bunch of molds from Imperial at one time.  I also cross-checked my Degenhart book (the Boyd factory is the same as the Degenhart factory, just new owners) and it was not in that book, so the mold was new to Boyd and not inherited when the factory was purchased from Mrs. Degenhart.  While this does not tell you who made it, it also eliminates one of the 'possible contenders'.

Dave Peterson