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Title: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: keith on July 12, 2014, 11:06:38 PM
6.5  inches high, marked to the base but where from ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: Greg. on July 13, 2014, 07:11:42 AM
I'll kick things off with Royal Brierley  :) - the design reminds me slightly off a large RB bowl I saw recently.
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: Ivo on July 13, 2014, 07:51:29 AM
krosno or atlantis.
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 13, 2014, 11:20:12 AM
 ;) Made in Poland for M&S.
 (for keeping inedible pretty pickles in.)

sorry, Keith, it's just too much like those bottles for me to be able to see anything past that. :-[
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: keith on July 13, 2014, 12:30:03 PM
Well that was quick, well done Greg, Royal Brierley Studio, another new shape,resembles the 'Rio' pattern by Gwynneth Newland. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 13, 2014, 12:49:52 PM
Just out of interest re. RB, in a charity shop yesterday I saw some cut sherry glasses with a Royal Brierley label and underneath was written in a flowing loopy script, " Brierley " alone.
I did not buy them. (sherry glasses  ??? the leftovers nobody wants...)
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: Greg. on July 13, 2014, 12:55:16 PM
 :)

I came across a large circular bowl, around 20/ 25cm in diameter a while back with this ribbed design.  Fairly plain in appearance, was very surprised to see the Royal Brierly mark to the underside when I turned it over. If it wasn't for the mark, I would never have guessed RB in a million years!

Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: keith on July 13, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
It seems they did more than most people thought, was the 'loopy' script similar to this Sue ? not seen just 'Brierley' on a piece.
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 13, 2014, 02:57:48 PM
It looked like loopy handwriting. The tool used was very fine, although there was evidence of it leaving the surface during the creation of the lines... they were not completely smooth. It looked hand-done, by somebody very experienced.
It was on every glass, and exactly the same. The script wasn't thick and "drilled" looking like the one you show. I would think it was a diamond point pen used.
The label was black with a gold outline and gold writing, it read Royal Brierley, it was a paralleogram shape, with rounded corners, much wider than it was tall.
The glasses themselves were of no remarkable cut.
NB.! I'm a philistine about cut stuff. It all looks pretty much the same to me, especially when it's standard classical patterns.

I did swither, for the sake of the mark, but could not justify having to buy the whole set and Michael was hovering nearby, in a sort of; "Don't you dare bring any more glass home." manner.  ::)

The letters were quite big - maybe 3-4mm, not counting the height of the capitals or the ls or the loops of the ys.

I did spend some time studying it - (as Michael got more and more grumpy and concerned about them appearing in the house.)

Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: keith on July 13, 2014, 05:01:12 PM
Sounds interesting, not  seen that type of mark before, well not yet!
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 13, 2014, 05:49:16 PM
I've just been reading this thread - where there is a good clear image of diamond point engraving in the inscription on the goblet-thingy in question.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,57224.0/topicseen.html

That is exactly the sort of engraving the "Brierley" was. It was hand done, with a diamond point pen.

(That's why I spent so long, studying it and swithering. It was not a "normal" mark to find on glass at all.)
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: keith on July 13, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
Very strange for a whole set to be 'handwritten' I  presume it was a special set made for someone, maybe ?
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 13, 2014, 07:54:51 PM
Nothing special, just a very boring and ordinary sort of cut, perhaps a few diamond shapes around it, and a couple of upwards cuts to give a little contrast and "finish" it. Nothing complex or particularly big. Completely unused, they all had their labels as well as the script on the base.

Would the labels hold a clue to the age? I didn't have a camera with me, sadly.

Perhaps is was the sherry glasses from a much larger suite, and it was just these that didn't get used?

(Michael likes his port in a wine glass size of glass, and volume. He can't be bothered with teeny tiny glasses that only hold enough for your teetotal maiden aunt's christmas "binge".)
Title: Re: Puzzle time, again !
Post by: keith on July 13, 2014, 11:17:51 PM
Wouldn't have thought they'd  have a bog standard set hand engraved unless it was a special order but as you said nothing special about them so ?? ??? ;D