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Title: Gordon's (gin) Boar's Head advertising piece
Post by: Bernard C on July 14, 2014, 06:52:35 AM
See four images on GlassGallery, each with click main image to enlarge feature, via http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-20046

Hollow at the back, it doesn't work as an ashtray.   It might be part of a lighting fitment, but I can't see how.   More likely it went on a shelf with Gordon's gin bottles behind a bar.

I've seen bottle green examples with coloured enamel decoration before, but not this plain flint example.

I did wonder whether it might be a Nazeing production.

The boar's head is a symbol of the Gordon clan.

Any ideas on purpose, date, manufacturer, &c.?

Thanks for your interest,

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Gordon's (gin) Boar's Head advertising piece
Post by: Paul S. on July 14, 2014, 07:55:33 AM
not sure how comprehensive Geoff. Timberlake's book is in terms of different designs, but can't see this item there, so may well not have been a Nazeing piece.
Title: Re: Gordon's (gin) Boar's Head advertising piece
Post by: Ohio on July 14, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
May sound silly, but why not contact Gordons? I see its  trademarked so probably licensed & if so would require anyone reproducing the logo for commercial purposes to be registered in Gordon's records as having received permission to manufacture. Maybe Gordons themselves commissioned these to be made for them & since Gordons has been distilled in the U.S. since 1934 it could well be a U.S. glass company.
Title: Re: Gordon's (gin) Boar's Head advertising piece
Post by: Anne on July 15, 2014, 02:03:39 AM
Another one sold recently on eBay, Bernard: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moulded-glass-boars-head-advertising-Gordons-gin-and-three-optics-1-5th-gill-/161299162136 - but with the addition of surface colouring which is badly worn - and, interestingly, facing the opposite way to yours. Almost like bookends!

A piece about the history of Gordon's Gin revealed that their bottles were made by both Bagley and UGB in the early 20th century, so could they be candidates for this also?
Title: Re: Gordon's (gin) Boar's Head advertising piece
Post by: Bernard C on July 15, 2014, 01:57:39 PM
Paul — I just suggested Nazeing as being probably the most obvious British glassworks for this type of promotional goods.

Ken — I couldn't find any overseas.   Also my own experience is that British (sometimes including Empire / Commonwealth and usually excluding Canada) and US marketing operations are and were usually quite different and distinct, so I would have expected a British manufacturer.

Anne — Useful.   As almost all glassworks could have made them, I was only suggesting Nazeing as an obvious starting point.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Gordon's (gin) Boar's Head advertising piece
Post by: Paul S. on July 15, 2014, 03:56:53 PM
I agree Bernard that looking at factories that had the known potential for such material and produced much advertising ware, is a good way of beginning your search.
Although it would seem that this piece almost certainly has nothing to do with Nazeing, the factory name could have been a potential contender in view of their involvement in the pub trade in the 1970's and 1980's.
It's on record that in 1980 alone their sales of ashtrays apparently peaked at something like 1.5 million items, almost all of which (or possible all) carried logos for the tobacco and alcohol industry.

I'd suggest this item is at least uncommon  -  don't believe it has figured on the Board previously - although a possible reason for this is that it might have been made for an overseas market??