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Title: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: stew2u2 on July 22, 2014, 07:22:14 PM

hi i am definitely no expert i buy what i like then try to find something about it, this on has me puzzled tho.
bought this a while ago thought it might have some age. i was led to believe the rule of thumb that have handles that start at the top are older. dont think it is machine threaded . rough pontil could it be early victorian or am i totally wrong and made last year lol.
thanks
stew

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: Paul S. on July 22, 2014, 09:36:47 PM

the bottoms of those handles look to be just a little overdone - on C19 pieces the final squiggle doesn't normally appear quite like that.
The other thought I'd offer is that the pontil scar looks possibly as though it might have been created by breaking away from a hollow pontil road - when cracked off, hollow rods tend to leave an irregular, but circular looking scar rather than a solid break.           If correct, this would suggest a non-British origin. 

Could well be threaded glass decoration, but if very irregular then presumably not machine threaded.
Top down handles are usually defined as occurring prior to c. 1860 ish - but am sure there are modern copies meant to deceive - but in any event I don't think this would be early Victorian  -  late perhaps, but not early.

Sorry that I can't offer any positive or more helpful comments. :)

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: stew2u2 on July 23, 2014, 12:48:12 AM

thanks paul all information is greatfully received. just noticed in one photo that there was something inside 2 gold stud earrings so my £2 flea market buy wasn't all that bad

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 23, 2014, 06:36:50 AM

Gordiola?

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: Ivo on July 23, 2014, 07:12:46 AM

Gordiola!

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: stew2u2 on July 23, 2014, 11:03:10 AM

brilliant thanks ivo and christine
thanks so last year it was lol

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: Ivo on July 23, 2014, 11:09:03 AM

I would give it about 40 tot 50 years - it looks from the time of Bernardo Gordiola Manera - though it is hard to pinpoint precisely.

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: KevinH on July 25, 2014, 12:09:52 AM

And for a bit of confirmation on the Gordiola ID ... see my photo at:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4479

My vase has many "Gordiola features", including the ribbed shaped body, neck trailing, and "top down" applied handles ... and also what may be the same amber colouring.

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 25, 2014, 06:46:42 AM

I always think Gordiola has a slightly "off" Victorian style, like its trying to hard to look old.

Title: Re: bit of learning please. victorian amber glass vase or earlier
Post by: Ivo on July 25, 2014, 09:55:08 AM

http://www.gordiola.com/es/catalogos
been making glass since 1719 so if it looks old it is not for trying.