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Title: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: SNJ on August 22, 2014, 02:31:18 PM
Interested - please - to see if anyone has any opinions about this bowl, which I'm assuming has trailed uranium glass (damn, must find that UV pen)...

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/thelasticonoclast/P8160099.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/thelasticonoclast/P8160100.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/thelasticonoclast/P8160101.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/thelasticonoclast/P8160102.jpg

Thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: keith on August 22, 2014, 03:13:26 PM
I'd say Stuart for this one, ;D
Title: Re: Ruffled orangey bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: SNJ on August 27, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
I'll just add some more photos. I failed to appreciate before that when placed against a white background the glass, particularly on the bottom, has an unusual orange tinge to it.
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: SNJ on August 27, 2014, 03:28:17 PM
I'm not really sure I like that orange. Makes me feel a bit queasy for some reason.  ???
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: keith on August 27, 2014, 05:32:43 PM
I think it's great, goes well with mine... ;D
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 27, 2014, 06:33:21 PM
As far as I know Stuart never included uranium in any of their glass, so I'm going to disagree with your suggestion Keith. ;)
Sorry, I can't offer any constructive ideas tho  -  might the orange colour suggest a more modern piece of glass??  -  just thinking out loud really.

Meant to add......    can be helpful to describe the extent or otherwise, of wear  -  not always possible to see in screen pix if there is any or not, and can make a difference to thoughts on age.        Assume I'm seeing a ground/polished pontil - which normally would indicate a piece of reasonable quality.
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 27, 2014, 07:00:20 PM
They did in the early stuff
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=2032
though I'm not sure the trailed green is uranium
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 27, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
apologies  -  I was thinking of their C20 green coloured glass, that looks often as tho it is u. but never is. :)
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: SNJ on August 28, 2014, 07:04:19 PM
Loads of wear to the base ring and it's clearly been used as a plant pot holder as there's a really strong circle of wear to the centre of the interior and even lots of rubbing to several points along the interior walls. I've also invested in another uv black light torch thing from eBay so we'll soon know if the trailing is (to quote Paul elsewhere) "a glower".
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 29, 2014, 02:35:16 PM
this type of decoration and colour combination - plain green trailing producing a single spiral, plus the crimped rim  - does have a precedent.        Mervyn Gulliver includes a couple of pieces that appear to have similar features, and for which he gives dates in the last 20 years of the C19, although he doesn't venture to suggest a maker.                             Have no idea as to the cause of the orange effect.

My own opinion is to say not Stuart, but in truth I'm really not sure, although in any event I think it highly unlikely that a maker would ever be found, and dating is equally difficult.

Ref. 'Victorian Decorative Glass British Designs, 1850 - 1914'  -  Mervyn Gulliver  -  2002.   pp. 194 & 200. 
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: keith on August 29, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
Hello Paul, have a look at page 120 of said book and see what you think  :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 29, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
oh gosh  -  guess who didn't look through the entire book.  :-[      You're right Keith, certainly is a very good match for Stuart - will spotted.
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: keith on August 29, 2014, 03:42:52 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 29, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
but....................       will our thoughts remain with Stuart if it does in fact glow?? :)

By the way, does your opalescent looking piece glow?
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: keith on August 29, 2014, 06:20:07 PM
Excuse the photo my camera does not like uv, ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 29, 2014, 07:59:03 PM
thanks Keith  -  yours is similar to Christine's in having this opalescent appearance, and both glow.         
My thoughts are that if this is indeed Stuart then the op's will not glow as it's a different colourway completely  -  we will see :)
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: SNJ on August 30, 2014, 10:02:55 AM
Just checked with my super duper new blacklight torch - the trailing doesn't glow.
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: Paul S. on August 30, 2014, 11:39:31 AM
then I think that fact may support the suggestion of a Stuart attribution - but only possibly :)
Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: flying free on August 30, 2014, 10:35:40 PM
I think this is Stuart and it's an unusual colourway that doesn't come up that often. I think it's particularly beautiful because of the shape and the colours.  The green on plain glass trailed versions just don't float my boat.
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Title: Re: Ruffled bowl with trailed uranium green for consideration
Post by: SNJ on August 31, 2014, 09:21:03 PM
Thank you, everyone, for your opinions; very informative!