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Title: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 24, 2014, 07:06:08 PM
Picked this up today, but have absolutely no idea where to start looking for a maker beyond fruitless keyword searches in Google. Couldn't even say if it was made yesterday or 40 years ago - but it is nicely made.

It's 30cm / 12" (approximately - I forgot to measure it before packing it away). Clear glass at the core, with a partial "half-post" casing of a very seedy purple glass and a thick outer layer of clear again.

Finished to the base with a polished pontil mark.

Thanks for taking a look.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Frank on August 26, 2014, 02:01:08 AM
Wild and weird.... but half-post? That is a way of working, not a technique. Can you get an interior shot of the 'join' please.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 26, 2014, 08:45:12 AM
I've always understood (German) half post to be the partial casing that facilitates a thicker body without adding further to the thickness of the neck of utilitarian items like bottles - although here it's obviously employed for decorative purposes, which is fairly common in Scandinavian (and possibly more broadly Northern European) art glass... although I've drawn a blank with this one.

Happy to be wrong, of course.

There's nothing much to see on the interior - it's smooth and even all the way down, with the business end of the additional layers being quite prominent on the exterior. But here's as good as I could get:
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 29, 2014, 09:50:52 AM
It's been mentioned elsewhere that a variation of this vase has been seen with an Ikea label...

I'm not sure that it would be related, or even very similar - the weight of the vase, its manufacturing processes and quality of finish would surely leave economies of scale tipping out of Ikea's favour. Plus I've not found a match in my pile of Ikea catalogues that I keep for this kind of reference.

But the pile isn't complete, and I'm open-minded on the subject. Ikea do throw out some curve balls occasionally.

Does it ring bells with anyone as an Ikea vase?
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 29, 2014, 10:18:55 AM
I use the term partially-cased and never, ever get in a mess with half posts/ technique or not. (I hate the term - it's far too confusing. I believe it does origininate from old bottle-making, when, if you know exactly what they did, it makes some sense.)

My first gut impresssion, before enlarging it, was; Studio? Maybe Jane Charles? Somebody of that ilk?

Ikea is an "unknown" to us. ;D

Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 29, 2014, 11:14:49 AM
I've had a couple of (very lovely) Jane Charles pieces, and they've both been signed... even if the signature turns up somewhere odd, like halfway up the side of the vase!

Have to say, though, studio glass for some reason never occurred to me - have been spending hours hunting through Scandinavian and German glass instead. I do have a few British and continental studio glass books squirreled away somewhere.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 29, 2014, 11:32:59 AM
I saw a piece by her on Tuesday, which surprised me - it was a "Fin" vase, very like one she made for the SGS Exhibition in 2005. She has several "styles"; her work is very varied and I do see a fair bit in this Gallery, which I visit fairly frequently.
(This is the Fin vase from 2005. The new one in the strathearn Gallery in Crieff doesn't have the pinks in it.)
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: glassobsessed on August 29, 2014, 01:47:56 PM
I would put the Ikea suggestion on the back burner for now, for the simple reason that Ikea vases tend to turn up in large numbers and this appears to be the first we have seen (it is not in there current catalogue either).

John
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 30, 2014, 08:24:37 AM
This is the Fin vase from 2005.

It reminds me a little of an early Pauline Solven 'finned' vase that I had - only much much much more bright and cheerful!

 ;D

I've not managed to find any similar pieces to my vase from my studio glass books, nor from the internet.

The closest match so far, in factory glass, has been F. Meydam for Leerdam... although these seem only to be in clear bubbly glass, so it's probably a no-go.


Ikea vases tend to turn up in large numbers

A good point!
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: stew2u2 on November 17, 2014, 01:02:06 AM
i have one as well. no join seem smooth all the way down on the inside. its as tho a vase was blown then dipped into the coloured glass then that was cased.
here is mine http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,58529.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,58529.0.html)
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: stew2u2 on November 20, 2014, 02:43:51 PM
on similar lines. ? https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/204954686/skrdlovice-rene-roubicek-7212-modernist?ref=unav_listing-same (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/204954686/skrdlovice-rene-roubicek-7212-modernist?ref=unav_listing-same)
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Frank on December 18, 2014, 11:17:31 PM
p.s. Edinburgh Crystal blowers were trained in and used the half-post technique where it was known as the Continental Working: You can see the method illustrated in Derek Walls's article
http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:derek-walls-glassmaker&catid=16:glass-makers-a-c&Itemid=8
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 22, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
 :) It was wonderful watching Derek at the Conference. I noticed that when he was holding an iron, even without a blob of glass on it, he was gently moving it around and around, it appeared to be instinctive.
Iron in hand, keep it moving. 8)
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on November 18, 2015, 08:41:59 PM
Seems also to have been made in a bright blue colour:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151855011945?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on May 01, 2017, 11:08:18 AM
And possibly bright green:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Benny-Motzfeldt-Randsfjord-Glass-Vase-with-Internal-Bubbles-Norway-ca-1970-/192164033132?hash=item2cbdde726c:g:essAAOSwax5YqZOx

I can't find anything terribly similar to any of the vases so far from Randsfjord with my own searches, though.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: glassobsessed on May 01, 2017, 11:34:58 AM
I have this round squat purple version now, must be related to the green one you just linked to. Perhaps my earlier 'not Ikea' thought was wide of the mark...
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on May 01, 2017, 01:56:23 PM
I managed to track down the Ikea one that caused the confusion - the similarities were nominal. There's something similar from China doing the rounds, also, but with matted ground pontil marks and 'blah' shapes.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on May 01, 2017, 02:01:57 PM
There does seem to be a preponderance of them in the UK, though, so I'm wondering if they might possibly be British.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: glassobsessed on May 09, 2017, 08:47:45 AM
Another variation.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272444637734
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on May 09, 2017, 04:31:13 PM
There doesn't seem to be any bubbles in the one, and the pontil mark is just snapped off rather than ground/polished. So I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: glassobsessed on May 18, 2017, 06:30:57 PM
A Transatlantic variety: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/172452941625
Title: Re: Tall Vase w/ Seedy Purple "Half-Post" Casing
Post by: Pinkspoons on May 19, 2017, 02:05:20 AM
How can there be so many and yet still remain anonymous?!?   ;D

I think it's the first one I've seen outside of the UK, though.