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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: chopin-liszt on August 30, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
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[Mod: This thread had meandered into a discussion about various Selkirk weights and that info has now been split out as a new thread. However, some of the initial chat about Selkirk weights is left in this thread to avoid a complicated split of topics.]
I don't know what came over me, I deliberately bought a paperweight, this one did not just sneak into the house while I wasn't looking. ;D
It's quite a beauty. Damson Floral Fountain ('82). Dreadful name though.
(The mark in the second image is not a scratch on the surface, just a bit of reflection.)
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Hi Sue,
I really like this combination of colours. Lovely thing...
With regard to 'the sneaking in' of paperweights, it must be a Scottish thing; in my part of the world (Middle Earth), weights just appear inside the flat (at least this is what I tell my husband...) ;D
SophieB
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Hi Sue. For me, that Caithness design is one of the better early ones. There are other colours - peach, blue, red at least.
Alan
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Thanks, Sophie and Alan! :)
I think it was the deep purple against the green that "grabbed" me. Something "thistley" about it!
I can't quite imagine it in other colours.
It's fascinating, as the petals on the far side are always "lifted" by the optical effects of the dome. They are all completely horizontal, as can be (almost be) seen from my "sideways" pic. It jumps inbwtween looking completely full of colour and almost absent of it.
The only other Ltd Edn weight I've had in my hands is Carousel, which again, was something really quite special. It can be seen in Lustrousstone's gallery.
It has a white CG cane in the base, 158 /750; but only 268 were actually made, according to Scotland's Glass.
Does anybody know if that would mean 258 "Damson" ones, or would the other colours of the design be included?
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That is gorgeous. I think you mean Cartouche, not Carousel ( Is that the one you were trying to describe the other day?)
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1783
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:)
I did rather think it was your cup of tea, Christine. :-*
Yes, I meant Cartouche, (CG) :-[
But I did not mean Carousel (under the ageis of Selkirk) at any point, I don't think. One was Harlequin, which was on sale in the same shop as Damson Founrtain, but you've got that. I did check it and its name. It's the one I've only seen in the shop window in Dunkeld that I'm not sure about - but it is a glorious thing and "up your street".
SophieB - you need to inform your hubby that pwts are probably interdimensional time travellers, they simply appear from nowhere. ;)
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I don't think you mean Harlequin either, Pierrot? (I have got one of those)
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Don't you have Harlequin? I suppose it's very similar to Pierrot, I could easily have become confused.
The one in the Ferry is definitely Harlequin. I checked it's bottom and HARLEQUIN is written there.
It there a catalogue of Selkirk weights anywhere - or are you trying to collect the ones you like before something gets written about them and the prices shoot up into the realms of the unaffordable? ;)
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Hi Sue,
Thanks for the tip!! I will share that with my hubby (although as a physicist, he may doubt this explanation) ;)
By the way, Wuff was working on getting pictures of all LE Selkirk weights on Scotlandsglass. He had already digitised the pictures of the catalogues he owns. However, I am not sure how far he got with this.
Also, I collect Selkirk weights (both traditional and abstract) in a BIG way (I have around 100 of them but I have quite a few on my wish list still - no 'Ebony' for instance). May be we should keep the secret of these beauties a little longer... ;D
SophieB
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So, Sophie, he's a sensible physicist then? Subscribes to "loop" (or pretzel) theory rather than string theory? ;)
I certainly do. ;D
(I do not reckon "other dimensions" exist, as they would have to under string theory. Nature has this weird tendency to do things the easiest way, which is not always what is expected - it finds ways around. Every single cell in your body can strip an individual electon off a molecule and keep it off. How easy is it for folk to be able to do that in a lab? ;) )
You'll just have to resort to the old; "What? That old thing? It's been there for years. How come you didn't notice it before?" ;D
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Nice weight, Sue. Even I have one of those, and it was not made by Paul Ysart!
Alan mentioned other colours including red, but the info on Scotlands Glass for Caithness weights shows only the Blue, Peach and Damson versions. Blue was 1980, Peach 1981 and Damson 1982. All were separate editions of 750, with the Catalogue stating the first two were "fully subscribed" and Damson closed at 228 (but maybe Scotlands Glass info of 268 was correct).
If those were the only versions, then perhaps the Damson version did not sell as well as the others and that was the reason for closing before they were half through the edition? Strange, though, because most (of the not too many) folk I have talked to about this design say they prefer the Damson version!
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SG is probably typo.
Site will be being upgraded next month and then updates can be restarted.
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I'll try to respond in "reverse order" ....
SG is probably typo.
I agree - must be a typo - and has been corrected.
Alan mentioned other colours including red, but the info on Scotlands Glass for Caithness weights shows only the Blue, Peach and Damson versions. Blue was 1980, Peach 1981 and Damson 1982.
The red version - just named "Floral Fountain (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=2882&category_id=46&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6)" - was the first one to be issued in 1979 - and is "displayed" on Scotland's Glass.
If those were the only versions, then perhaps the Damson version did not sell as well as the others and that was the reason for closing before they were half through the edition? Strange, though, because most (of the not too many) folk I have talked to about this design say they prefer the Damson version!
Damson is certainly a very attractive colour - but it was the last to be issued. Possibly the "market" of collectors liking the design was already "saturated" with the other colours ???. Because, definitively, if the weight would have sold better it would not have been stopped.
It there a catalogue of Selkirk weights anywhere ...?
By the way, Wuff was working on getting pictures of all LE Selkirk weights on Scotlandsglass. He had already digitised the pictures of the catalogues he owns. However, I am not sure how far he got with this.
There used to be a few selected catalogues online - complete pages and not easy to navigate - but at least the URL I had noted is no longer valid.
Correct - I have digitized all Selkirk catalogues (the ones I don't own myself I got on loan for scanning from the Yelverton Paperweight Centre): not just the limited editions, but all their weights. Quite a few of the limited editions do not show up in the catalogues, however ... but with the help of collectors like SophieB (thank you!) I could close many gaps.
As Frank implied above, however, not much has been uploaded to Scotland's Glass recently, but I am looking forward to getting it going again. In the meantime I had posted images of several Selkirk weights on this board - whenever a specific design was discussed.
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In the meantime I had posted images of several Selkirk weights on this board - whenever a specific design was discussed.
Images of the Selkirk weight mentioned in this thread can be found here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,57704.0.html).
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Hi all,
Wuff - Don't mention it, I am happy to help. Also, I have acquired a few more Selkirks since last year, do you want pictures of these too?
Sue - No, Hubby does not believe in parallel worlds... And he says that he is no longer taken in by 'What! this old thing' exclamation as the collection (like my wardrobe apparently) keeps growing visibly ;D. Never mind, I am sure I will think of something else...
SophieB
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I know nothing about paperweights, but that sure is a pretty one, Sue.
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[Mod: As annotated in the initial post, general discussion of Selkirk weights has been split out, from this point, into a new thread.]